Regular readers will be familar with the female typology I cribbed off Alchemy42, namely:

1. High beauty / High Esteem – the holy grail of pickup
2. High beauty / Low Esteem – ditzy club psychos
3. Low beauty / High Esteem – annoying cockblocks
4. Low beauty / Low Esteem – Big Toe‘s girls

I have very pointedly aimed my game for type one girls because I like actual dating and thus want to be around girls who make me feel good and don’t try to fuck me around with their stupid games. I believe that honest direct game, especially street game, is the way to get these girls and then on dates you just take your time. Turn off the bullshit and let the girl see your value. However, type 2 girls are also useful on your journey in masculine development and not just because they are often great lays. Like a boxing prospect needs some testing fights against challenging opponents for him to elevate himself to contender status, an aspiring player needs challenging game-playing girls to teach him about women.

I have been lucky enough to have some such girls. Tall, smoking hot women who are in constant demand from men and have, due to daddy issues or whatever, learned to shamelessly manipulate them and break their frames.

• Man-Eater: A tall leggy black English girl with massive fake tits and a £100k City job.
• Button Nose: A tall leggy white English girl with massive natural tits and from extremely posh background
• Russian Bear: A tall leggy white Russian girl who oozes sexuality and works as a hired gun for nightclubs.

You’ll probably notice some similarities between these girls. In each case, everytime I walked down the street with them on my arm, every single man’s jaw dropped, his tongue hanging out. Literally 100 times per hour. It was a great insight into these girl’s reality. They are being validated with attention, favours, and offers of cock literally a thousand times a day every day for years. No wonder they are difficult.

I didn’t fuck any of those three girls. Man-eater gave me a few blowjobs, Button Nose masturbated over sex chat and is dating me later this week, and Russian Bear let me put my cock halfway in before she spazzed out and I threw her out my house. No lay report on the later because I didn’t get my two strokes. But over the course of the chase I learned an incredible amount about frame control, shit tests, flipping the script, state control and so on. These girls helped educated me alot for when I encounter the girls I actually like.

JJ calls them “messers”. Girls who mess you around. The most important thing I learned from them is don’t date them. They are a siren song waiting to drown you on the rocks. Learn to recognise the warning signs and don’t waste your time.

I’m busy with all kinds of shit right now, so it’s a great opportunity to hand over the reins to my capable friend and wingman Rocky for a theoretical post that is close to all our hearts – closing high value girls. Take it away….

This model is what I use for girls that I want to be able to see over long periods of time; I wouldn’t use this model on a girl that I just want to see once for sex. The idea is to structure a process that is as linear and as predictable as possible; the aim is to make as few escalation mistakes along the way as possible. By that I mean that I do want to create an escalation process (romantic and sexual escalation) that is as smooth as possible and I want to trigger as little rejection to my escalation as possible. Note that I do not fear rejection and I am not trying to avoid escalation; my aim is to avoid rejection as much as possible and if possible to flip the script, making her seduce me. Experience showed me that rejection is mostly a result of escalating too early (sexual and romantic escalation).

Failure due to romantic overescalation: We all know the “I-would-marry-her-right-now-and-treat-her-like-a-queen-for-the-rest-of-her-life-feeling” when first dating a very hot and charismatic girl. As a result you will become needy because you feel the urge to let her know early on how much you are falling for her. This clearly creeps girls out because you have no reason to like her yet. She will assume that your affection is fake or phony in order to sleep with her as soon as possible or you have no standards and fall for any girl, both of which is bad. You could also miss to create enough attraction if you go down the romantic route too early.

Failure due to sexual overescalation: Similarily, if you bring the girl into a situation where she has to reject your physical escalation, you might lose her as well. Even if you manage to blast through LMR and sleep with her she is very likely to get buyers remorse the next day and she may not want to see you again. Note that sex after strong LMR is not very good usually anyway.

The cure: In my experience, these are the two main issues why guys screw up and lose girls. To circumvent these two problems it is important to understand that

1. YOU NEED TO GIVE THE GIRL REASONS WHY YOU LIKE HER or your romantic interest will come across as fake and phony and
2. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE GIRL UNDERSTANDS AND BELIEVES THAT YOU WILL SEE HER AGAIN AFTER YOU HAD SEX WITH HER or she will feel like a slut.

To be able to create 1) and 2) you need to give yourself time because you need multiple dates to make it plausible to the girl. 1) and 2) go hand in hand because for a girl liking a guy and having sex with him goes hand in hand. Girls want to have sex just as much as guys do (or even more). The difference is that girl wants to know that you want to have sex with her because you like her and not only because you are horny. The same counts for herself: if she likes you she will want to have sex with you as well. Girls are very vulnerable and their biggest fear is to have sex with a guy that doesn’t care about her personality and that doesn’t want to see her again after sex. Almost all girls have had this kind of experience and they remember that slutty feeling very well: it is their biggest fear. For that reason girls have very finely tuned sensors that are detecting guys with the following mindset: I want to sleep with you because you are hot but I don’t really care about you. With a very hot and charismatic girl (gf material) it is your aim to make it plausible to a her that you want to have sex with her because you really like her and find her very attractive. In that way you will avoid triggering her slut defense. As a matter of fact, you will become the special guy that appreciates her for who she is and has more than just a physical need to satisfy.

Timing and Escalation: you are constantly escalating. The difference to a 10min club extraction is that the speed of the escalation is much slower and you bring in an additional element which I called romantic escalation. In a club you approach, attract, bounce and close. All this can happen within 10min to 2h. For getting the charismatic hotty that you consider gf material you need to take a different route. You take your time. You escalate sexually but you escalate slowly, while you are building comfort, trust and chemistry at the same time. Then you escalate sexually more while letting her know that you like her.

You have various dates, some of which involve activities that she and you are interested in: maybe an art exhibition or maybe a walk along the canal from Camden to Paddington. After 3-4 dates you end up at her or your place. You have made out with her various times before and both of you feel that this is going very well. You may cook together and watch a movie and then half way through the movie it just happens. No LMR, no ASD, you jump each other, the sex is passionate and there to release all the sexual tension that has built up over time. Because you want to keep her around and because you feel comfortable with her you stay over after sex. You may get up in the morning together and have breakfast. The next day she calls and tells you that she had an incredible evening and night with you and that she is free on Wednesday. You reciprocate and tell her that she can come over on Wednesday.

Thanks Rocky. If this doesn’t sound like rocket science, it’s because it isn’t. Much of the complexity in game comes from digging yourself out of holes you should have never fallen into, or choosing the wrong girl / failing to screen out a girl who isn’t right for you.

Recently I’ve switched up my date game. One concept familiar to community guys is that skills acquisition is like a pendulum. At first you are out of balance to one side – usually the passive side – so you need to swing the pendulum right over to it’s opposite side. Think of it like flexing your muscles. So for example, a guy who has never cold approached has to start flying into set after set regardless of how well-suited the girl is to him, just so he can feel what the other extreme is like. Or a timid nice guy might really dial up his assholery so he can learn how it feels to unburden yourself and piss off lots of girls.

Then once the test phase is over, you let the pendulum rest at the sweet spot in the middle. You calibrate that aspect of your game.

I’ve been pushing it hard lately in verbal escalation, reality-reframing, and intellectual mastery. These are core skills to get Type One girls. The problem is I’ve been pushing it too hard too fast and losing girls because of it. This isn’t a problem because I can get an endless series of dates with girls like in this video. However, after watching this video I decided I’ve swung the pendulum out far enough and it’s time to scale back.

I’m returning to minimalism on dates. Be quiet, let the girl talk. Whoever is talking is investing.

Note how despite doing too much work it’s still effortless to draw IOIs and sexual state out of this girl. She’s a bona-fide Krauser ‘9’.  In this particular case my hands were tied by logistics: she was in London for only three days, to stay with her boyfriend of two years, and I met her two hours before he finished work. Also, I was with a 1-on-1 student so I felt bad stretching the date out. Had logisitcs suited I would’ve led her around London for a couple of hours, put a couple of pints in her, then escalated once in my bedroom.  As Rocky said to me upon watching the video:

“I can see that you talk a lot and she doesn’t     she is easy     she is up for it     she needs to be led     look at the way she smokes     look at her eyes     she is ready”

While out daycreeping with a wing a couple of weeks ago we got a call from Andy Yosha to ask if we’d drop by Daygame.com HQ to record a podcast.

Welsh HB10

I apologise in advance for the many sexually inappropriate innuendos. I can’t host the podcast myself, so click here to listen. It’s about an hour long.

Most UK readers should be familiar with the London Seduction Society (LSS), the main UK forum for game. Most aspiring players find their way onto it at some point in their journey and in the beginning I used it to find wings and get a feel that I wasn’t the only weirdo doing this pick-up stuff.

I rarely post there now, mainly because my blog is the repository of my game-related thoughts. They run irregular charity bootcamps a couple of times a year so this time around I was invited to speak. Seeing as I’m primarily known for my daygame perhaps people expected me to speak about that. No sir. I wrote up a new talk about the subtext to your journey in game.

It went over quite well. Here’s the full talk as filmed by my bird. I’ve blurred out faces and when the camera pans into the audience my girl followed her instructions correctly (“just get the tops of people’s heads, not their faces”). I’ve snipped off the last few minutes of the Q&A to keep it down to 3x15min.

Here’s the last of three parts. Guest-written by Rocky….

With some wings I game differently to Krauser. I am guilty of being a bit unpatient with other wings in the sense that we are out gaming and neither of us wants to waste and opportunities. That is suboptimal I think. I think that the rat pack theory that Krauser posted is the real killer. i.e. you are more concentrated on having fun with the boys ( we are the strongest link and coolest motherfuckers in the place, as far as we are concerned) and you pull girls into that frame; they are allowed to have fun with the coolest motherfuckers that are around. Think of it as a war of love:you need to stick together and build a unshakeable unit because each one of you – no matter how strong you are on your own – is simply more likely to come out a winner if you stick together.

I base this observation on things I observed during my high school years. This is what it used to be like in school for me: a girl was never able to drop my value even if I thought she was hot. I knew that I am an integral part of that group of guys and girls that everybody admires. I give value to that group and I receive value from that group in equal amounts. A girl from outside didn’t mean anything and if she dared to blow me out or let me down she knew that she blew her chances with a lot of high value guys and girls at the same time. Why? Because we were approved to be the high value group by a lot of people and if I disapprove her then that will harm her reputation a lot. I was able to put a price on her pussy so to speak and I was able to give it a high or a low price. How did I get into that position? Our group had the hottest girls, we were good at sports, we organised big parties, we were known for getting into fights and had a bad ass reputation. I was part of probably two or three different high value groups (subgroups), which seemed even more ridiculous to an outsider: how can you roll with all these people at the same time? Well, high value groups recognise and associate with high value groups: football players will hang out with Formula 1 drivers and models etc. They go to the same venues for example. That’s obviously a different scale, but the concept remains in tact.

Back to the infield observation: For a girl (or a guy) to go against the grain by letting me down out was simply very risky. The likelyhood of her convincing all the others that I am an idiot was virtually zero, because everybody was afraid of becoming an outsiders as well. All outsiders knew that the rat pack wouldn’t fuck around long and they would simply start ignoring her and her value would systematically drop. So even if a girl wasn’t genuinely liking my approach – which was unlikely because I was giving her “approval from the cool gang” and all the sudden her value sky rocketed – she was very tempted to accept it for the fact that she didn’t want to become an outsider. Girls slept with me because of what I represented (her value increasing) and because of the fear of becoming an outsider (her value dropping). Note: a true high value group can only destroy itself by disagreeing or fighting with each other.If you realise that you will get A LOT of pussy just for the fact that this group exists and you are part of it, you will not want to jeopardise that group.

I have witnessed many wings. Wingmanship requires discipline, solid game skills and unequestionable integrity.

I recently discussed how wing rules fit into the lifestyle of high value men. Here’s the example that inspired the post. I get a call from one of my gang on a Saturday night. He’s managed to get a top target out for drinks on a Day 2 but she’s insisting on bringing her friend. I’ve already arranged to take my girlfriend out so I decide it might be fun for her to watch wing work in action, and I can help my friend out and preselect him with my girl. So we jump in the bus and away we go. I’ll let him give the full field report……..

• I met this chick in [bar name]. The opener was very friendly, quirky and sexual “you look very tasty and I want a bite off your arm.” or words to that effect. I held onto her legs saying: look I am not off balance, I am just find your legs fucking sexy. It hit and I took her for a shot at the bar telling her that I won’t hit on her that night but next time. I made a mistake by talking about old relationships but was abe to turn it around and use it later against her. I didn’t make out with her. Just turned her around to check out her ass. She was very compliant to requests from the start.

Looks like this and of equal quality

• Text messages were exchanged. Nothing too crazy and nothing too boring. She bit on the crazy surreal statements and on the sexual hook that she missed out because we went on partying.

• The day 2 started with me meeting her and her Slovak friend in [West London]. We went to the Burger King and the vibe was a little bit awkward at the beginning. We were waiting for Krauser and his gf and when they arrived we went to a nearby pub for a pint. They paid theirs and we paid ours. Once outside, Krauser gave me perfect full attention and started creating the comfort which was missing. My girl opened up strongly when we talked about Brazil and the music and the dancing. It was a very authenticand real vibe with a few attraction spikes tossed in. They bit on it and the vibe improved. Krauser did a great job at DHVing me, creating comfort, giving me social proof, while letting me be the player. I had the alpha position leaning against the wall.

• We walked to [bar / club] and went into the pub next to it. Krauser gave me the seat that I needed: next to my girl. He started occupying the Slovak girl and I went straight into flipping the script. They had bought me a drink as we started playing it by the round. The first bit of game I ran was a very passive and subtle. I DHVed by talking about promoting and the fake girls that are beautiful and that I need more than just good looks. Talked about burlesque clubs and mixed clubs (freedom bar). We started to connect and I leaned back as she started to go off into a massive investment. Her body language was very sexual and she was leaning in strongly, her eyes were sparkly. I simply did seductive listening with eye fucking. My face was very plain, no nodding and very unreactive. I gave her the occasional naughty smile to bait more investment and she did. We went outside for a smoke and her friend followed. I gave Krauser a massive DHV by telling her that he is a real friend: a friend that you can call at 5 in the morning when you are in trouble. I befriended her in a very real sense. If I was “gaming” one would have said I disarmed her, but it wasn’t necessary because they were genuine and interested in the first place.

• We went to [lounge bar] where I bought a round of watermellon martinis. We talked about what they like best about each other in terms of character qualities, playfully whispering into one girls’ ear at the time, intriguing them. That gave me the chance to ask what they like about me (love this routine because they verbalise why you are so great). They both said I’m very friendly, sociable, easy going and that they have never met a [guy] like that. Krauser was sitting with his gf letting me run the set. The vibe was strong: seductive, fun and authentic, while a strong genuine connection was built.

• Krauser went home at midnight and the first moment came where I had to run real game. We went outside, they didn’t want to pay entrance fees and I didn’t know a bar where you could go without paying entrance. They relied on me. One of them said: we can call it a night. I said: no girls, it is way to early to call it a night. Follow me. I just started leading towards [new location]. They followed. We went into the little bar next to the station that looks a bit Carribean. It was a blessing because the vibe there was a dream. A guy singing and playing the guitar. We were seated at the bar on stools. I was in the middle and the girls left and right of me so I could shift attention as I pleased. We had a few drinks and it got naughtier. A few AMOGs came in but I blew them out hard. A guy trying to solve logistics by asking: so how do you guys know each other. I blew him out by bringing it to sexual absurdity (in his world at least): “oh, nothing special. On a Friday we do the usual threesome and on a Tuesday I fuck them seperately.” Then a chair fall over at the other side of the room and I just said: oh shit! My intent was to guide the girls RAS (attention) to the new thing which meant that they were to back turn him. Then I caught their attention to keep him backturned. It worked. He simply walked off. Similar thing happened outside as we left. It was horrible to see the guy crumble, but I will make you look like an idiot if you try to interfere with my set. To the guy outside I just said: ok, cool. Anyway girls, let’s go and just led them away from him. Again I put him into spectator mode by asking the Slovak to do that dance again. By then she was already a bit drunk and did it. The guy had to watch and I asked him to join but he didn’t dare=massive value drop because not able to hang and be part of the group.

• I built more comfort by talking about a canal adventure walking from Camden to Paddington (little venice). My girl loved it and the future projection felt very solid.

• Physically I did a lot of side-way hugging with cheek on cheek contact. The eye fucking was always there. I touched her leg a few times but didn’t do anything crazy or forward. Not because I didn’t dare to but because I didn’t want to escalate in the wrong location. I had the feeling that I could have, but I thought: what’s the point. I know I can kiss her. I told her that we are going to have to delay the kissing one more time and smiled. Not sure she really listened when I said it and I could have escalated more. But at least I didn’t blow the sexual tension while she still knows that I am a sexual guy. I pulled her friend’s hair hard one time just to show them that I can be sexually aggressive. I gave her the RJ neck massage and stroked her behind the ear. I spanked the Slovak’s hand one time. The only thing I could have done better is not the intensity of the sexual escalation, but the direction: I should have directed it more to my girl instead of the Slovak. I did give them 50:50 but 80:20 would have been better. My aim was to show them that I have balls to escalate but that I won’t do it when her friend is around because there is no point. I also wanted to avoid the sexual predator box. It feels like I succeeded but I could have done a bit more sexual escalation. Knowing that sexual escalating is my problem (i.e. I am too forward usually) I chose to play it safe.

• The best mid-game bit was me biting on the Slovak’s “social trap” by asking me if I had ever done anything completely crazy. I said: yes, a threesome. The look in their eyes was funny. Like: oh my god, he is weird. So I calibrated it. I said: I had a threesome 10 years ago with my gf and her best friend. It wasn’t one of these lets-just-fuck threesomes. We had a very strong sexual connection. We were laying in bed and the girls started kissing. Then one thing led to another. They were both leaning on me and we pleasured one after the other all night long. It wasn’t akward at all the next day. They spazzed out and got very turned on.

• The next golden moment was when my girl asked me if I fancied her Slovak friend and that she doesn’t have a problem with it. The best thing to do would have been to say: Don’t get me wrong, I really like her but I didn’t ask you to bring her on our date. Now you have to deal with it (while leaning in with the last sentence). What I did was that I said: Hmmm, maybe. Who knows. She kept trying to tease me and I didn’t bite. I just played it very vague but giving her clear signals that she is the one I am after. It was playful and obvious.

• The time came to leave. I showed them where their bus is. Her friend gave us a minute alone. I reminded her about our little adventure, gave her a kiss on the cheek

Conclusion

I like girls that are not playing games. They were sociable, open-minded, sexual and easy going. No game was needed. Yet, she wasn’t a “yes” girl. A good wing with set rules who knows what he is doing is key. Without Krauser handling the akwardness at the beginning and taking the Slovak on for a bit, I would have had a much harder time. No game is needed if you are dealing with girls of high self-esteem. A genuine connection is much better. If you meet two girls and one is your target direct 80% of your sexual attraction to the target. Do your escalation on her and not on her friend.

Part three to follow

The highest social priority in a man’s life should be to earn the mutual respect of other high-value men. I call it the Rat Pack Life. It is in stark contrast to the low-value cretins and fakers who either have nobody’s respect or (barely better) they have the adoration of morons.

Consider Robbie Williams. He can’t sing, can’t dance, doesn’t write his material, and is basically talentless. He does have good looks and charisma so combine that with a fortuitous chain of events and suddenly he’s a superstar singing on stage in front of 20,000 adoring fans in RobbieFest, about 2/3s of whom are young nubile women, many of them pretty. Is that good?

Well, not to be sniffed at for sure. But how come he ended up a messed-up coked-up alcoholic in rehab whereas many other famous people did not. I think the parable of the Emperor’s New Clothes is instructive. Put simply, there was a massive incongruence between the public image of Robbie that he had to live up to, and the reality that he knew. He was a faker. But the morons in the audience were too moronic to know this. Cognitive dissonance and self-worth issues ensue.

"where did it all go wrong...?"

In contrast consider some genuine artists and accomplished men. These guys form natural rat packs of other high-achieving men. They hang out in a modern version of the hunting band. This is where a real sense of belonging comes from. Think George Clooney and his gang. No rehab for them. I think of it this way:

No amount of adoration from morons, no matter how many of them, can substitute for the mutual respect of a high value man.

Your goal in life should be to create your own rat pack. Seek out and befriend high value men. Gather around each other and live a life of epic coolness. The girls will come a distant second, but they will come. You don’t have to worry about your frame when you have your pack. It solidifies your inner game. Get the guys together, agree wing rules, and own the world with your awesomeness.

Aha, I mentioned wing rules. Finally I have arrived at the purpose of this post. Any time you go out with a wing you must have rules of engagement. Two or more guys operating in perfect harmony with a clear purpose can wreak havoc on untapped pussy. I’m reminded of a common sight in Estonia while I was there with Big Toe. I’d sometimes hang out at a “foreigners bar” while he was in the burrito shop stuffing his face. On at least four separate occasions the same scene played out before my eyes:

1. Four or more Brits on a stag do, clearly in sexual poverty where the only hot girls they see disrobe after receiving payment, are drunk outside a bar
2. A lone stripper approaches to rope them into her club by showering them with fake IOIs and leading them by the nose
3. Men are so blown away by the (fake) sexual attention of a halfway-decent woman that their tongues hang out and they metaphorically slit each other’s throats trying to clamber across each other’s corpses to get the attention of a woman they just met
4. Stripper struggles to hide her disgust that a group of guys who may have been friends for years will so quickly throw each other under a bus at the faintest whiff of pussy.

This is extremely low value behaviour. Girls are hard-wired to seek access to all-male groups and then wreck them with jealously plots. Consider pimp stables, football teams, Working Mens Clubs, the leading positions of civilisation….

Don’t fall for that shit. You can only get one notch from a girl. A good wing will get you 20 notches and boost the quality of your life in immeasureable ways by participating in the Rat Pack Life. No girls in the treehouse!

walking to the treehouse

Here are some basic rules of winging.

• Whoever opens the set is the Player. Everyone else is a Wing. The Player owns the set and plays it however he wants.
• The Wing’s job is to get the Player laid. At all times the Wing’s thoughts are towards moving the set in this direction.
• The Player is in the set and doing most of the work to carry it. He’s also outcome dependent because he’s trying to fuck the Target. This affords the Wing the unique position of third-party observation and thus the ability to see things the Player can’t, and make adjustments on the fly.
• The Player is always right. Never ever disagree with him and never take the Target or Obstacle’s side in a disagreement or tease.
• When the Player talks, the Wing shuts up immediately and listens. The Player always has the Wing’s full attention. This includes the subtletly of turning your body and feet to face the Player
• Wherever the best position is, the Player has it. If the Wing finds himself in that position by accident he contrives a reason to swap it with the Player.
• Never ever force the Player to the edges of the group or conversation. There will be a clear centre of energy in the interaction. Make sure the Player is it, not you or the girls.
• The Wing defers to the Player in subtle ways. For example he complies with the Player’s requests and looks to the Player for leadership (e.g. where to go for the next bounce)
• The Wing throws softballs to the Player to hit out of the park (e.g. “You’ve been to Rio too haven’t you?”)

I’ll post up a field report soon of wingwork in action from a set last night.

I think people are too obsessed with kino. It’s really not very important outside of the nightclub environment. The key to getting a girl across the sexual rubicon is to flip the switches in her hindbrain to make her feel that motion-towards of “I want this guy inside me”. The forebrain won’t help you much – think of it as a guarddog protecting the property and then just toss it enough bones to keep it distracted and quiet. When you start kinoing a girl you are unequivocally telling her hindbrain that you are chasing her – this will still work but it’s carrying her across the sexual rubicon not enticing her to make the leap herself.

I believe this is a crucial component in why most guys I know cannot achieve hand in their relationships. They set the frame in the beginning that they are chasing and she is the prize.

I like to multi-task my verbal escalation so that I can build comfort, show vulnerability, DHV, master her intellectually, heat her up, anchor her sexual feelings to me, while showing her a very easy path towards sexual gratification. I shot this video to give an example. The how-to explanation is in my book.

We begin the question game about 15 minutes after sitting down for a drink, after we’d had ten minutes shopping and before that ten minutes in the initial approach. This is a delayed instant date. Our total time since the cold approach was 35 minutes – that’s how quick you can go into this material if all the planets have aligned for you.

Things to look for in the video:

• My vocal tone is flat and calm. I’ve not got my tongue hanging out all excited to be talking about sex.
• I’m not propositioning her yet. The overt frame is we are getting to know each other. The escalation is a side bonus.
• I am genuinely interested in her attitudes towards sex and she can feel it’s authentic
• There is no judgement about morally good / bad. She feels free to open up
• I begin relatively light and then keep going deeper and dirtier. It’s a smooth progression.
• Her questions tell me alot about what she is interested about in me. In particular it allows me to preselect and also share deep rapport. Yes, you can get rapport during dirty talk.