Player’s Path – London Seminar on March 2nd

February 15, 2019
krauserpua

It’s been something of an annual custom for me to do two things in winter: release a major new product, and do a London seminar. Though I was tempted to do both an infield video product and a new daygame textbook this year, ultimately…. I just couldn’t be bothered. The memoir is more important to me, so I’m doing that first.

However, I do rather enjoy these seminars. It’s nice to visit my old stomping ground in London. At last year’s Daygame Infinite talk there was a big room full of keen daygamers and I got properly steaming drunk right after. Happy times.

So, imagine my pleasure when Eddie Hitchens of Street Attraction raised the topic of doing another seminar this year. He was sitting on some infields he and Richard had shot, and also a book he’d been working on. Their fellow coach George had been on a deep dive into the sociology side of Game and the manosphere. The Street Attraction lads had things they wanted the world to see.

As did I.

I’d only recently committed myself to finishing the seven-volume memoir series. Rather than pitch a product at the seminar, I quite fancied the idea of taking a holistic look back at my Player’s Journey, at the themes that emerged as I tackled each volume of the memoir. This would be the first time presenting live where, as far as I was concerned, I was looking back on the Game rather than being intimately involved as an active player. What interesting snippets could I share to men following the same road as myself, men who started later and have yet to see things I’ve grown very familiar with?

Everything is lined up now. The venue is booked. The ticket page is up.

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Definitely not influenced by Resident Evil 2 or Days Gone logos.

So, if you’d like to hear me rattled on about life as a player, go sign up. Eddie, Richard, and George will also be presenting so you won’t have to suffer my rambling for the whole six hours. More details on the ticket page here.

P.S. In other news, I decided I will coach some residentials this year. Check this page for more details, and there’s a detailed review from a former client here. I’ll post more soon, but I’m accepting enquiries now. I’ll probably limit myself to three clients for 2019.

53 Comments

  1. Speaking of seminars… any plans on releasing more Daygame Infinite seminar videos on your youtube channel ? [Yes but currently too distracted to finish them. K.]

  2. Your Street Attraction INTERVIEW for Daygame Infinite was an excellent talk. I’ve watched it many times (and quote you from there when I write). So was Outlaw Daygame (which I refer to guys as well, totally underrated series, excellent).

    Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsxtam_BhC4
    Outlaw Daygame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RoRRRU1WZo

    I am hoping this new talk is recorded and released via video.

  3. And for the record: I would love a new infield product… and particularly so if it included as much theory and female psychology as you could pack around the particular infields. As much lecture as you have the interest to do. Maybe some comments on the subsequent dates, what you saw in the pickup, how you read the girls psych, how you used that via messaging, what you saw on the date, any surprises vs your initial impressions, etc.

    Personally, I am at a stage of my game where I don’t expect to get much better at the mechanics of the stop (I’m not great, but that is not where I will grow). I will get better at stopping girls, because I am more entitled and I understand how they work in more subtle ways… and it’ll come through in the approach. This is why the analysis and side comments from you are as important as seeing you charm them on the street.

    Each instant on the street is particular to the girl. The theory/analysis, and the breakdown of reference experiences has more utility and potential as I see it.

    I know you have all this in Daygame Infinite, and it’s extremely well done. And you include the female psych/analysis in your memoirs… but I cannot get enough of this from you. [Thanks. I have the infields sitting on my hard drive but not sure if I’ll do anything with them. I’m not just going to vomit them out like Stealth Seduction. K.]

    • Agreed. Would be great to see Krauser keep releasing content on for as long as he can keep it up since we likely won’t see any one else creating pick up content of his calibre after he gets bored with daygame.

      While I definitely enjoy reading the Player’s Journey blogs of the second generation of daygamers (Roy Walker PUA, Mr White etc) I think its fair to say that the era of daygame theorists which started with Alex Coulson and Paul Janka has now come to an end with Krauser and Torero’s works. (Not starting a T vs K fight here.. alright mates…. I care about the pickup *content* these guys put out not their individual personalities)

      I suppose the same can be said of nightgame as well with Chase Amante and Todd V being the last real pickup pioneers of that sub genre. [Thanks. I’ve already lost interest in writing about daygame. There’s a chance I’ll rediscover it after the memoir is done. If so, I’ll write up all the material I got last year into a textbook. I think there’s an Infinite-sized book in it. K.]

      • > I think its fair to say that the era of daygame theorists which started with Alex Coulson and Paul Janka has now come to an end with Krauser and Torero’s works

        I don’t totally agree with you, but I like your point anyway.

        I think it’s because those MODELS are fleshed out… we can point back to LDM (or RSD’s work on nightgame), so that doesn’t really need to be done again. Unfortunately, that means all the side analysis and theorizing has cooled out. And the over-dependence on online has guys working on getting “stronger thumbs” (and “boosts”) rather than social dynamics.

        I am very hungry for GAME theory, regardless of the source of the pickup. It’s out there. Twitter has some good discussion. I read a lot of TheRedQuest and Xsplat (both on wordpress). Neither are daygamers, but they are part of a group of “men that think” and they will touch issues about game at a higher level than “do looks matter??”

  4. ” the over-dependence on online has guys working on getting “stronger thumbs” (and “boosts”) ”

    On the one hand I think the existence of online game is good in that the hordes of spammers can just screw around on Tinder instead of burning down the streets, clubs and bars.

    Though I still maintain that online game is for men who don’t have the willingness or ability to learn cold approach pickup.

    Flirting in person is a non negotiable requirement for consistently banging younger and hotter women. Any man who says otherwise is either doing good looking guy game or provider game. BlackDragon claims to have done it without provider game but I don’t believe him. If I give him the benefit of the doubt he’s probably giving off subtle provider signals without being consciously aware of them. [I think blackdragon is full of shit. K.]

    • “I think blackdragon is full of shit. K. ”

      You’re probably right.

      There were a a few instances where I read his blog and he said something that raised my eyebrows and made me suspicious but they weren’t crazy enough for me to disregard him outright. Though I’m still a beginner so my bullshit detector isn’t as finely tuned as a more experienced man’s is.

      I’m going to stop reading him and just refer back to Rollo’s The Rational Male book series if I have a relationship like question I’m stuck on. I started reading Rollo once I heard you recommend him in the London Real interview.

      I’m almost done reading his year one blog posts which make up his first book. [Rollo’s stuff is good and now he’s appearing at taped events, you can see he’s a man who has his shit together. Not just a basement nerd. I know very little about Black Dragon except a few blogposts I read and what people tell me of him. It doesn’t compute. Not least that he’s an unattractive older man doing primarily online game in a city full of ugly women. I shudder to think what his quality is like, if his stories are even real. Generally, I don’t trust any man who hasn’t publicly demonstrated his bona fides. If BD has, I withdraw everything I just said. If he hasn’t – which is how I understand it – he’s just another big mouth on the internet telling people he’s awesome and there’s no reason at all to take him at his word. K.]

      • One of the things that made me a bit suspicious is his advocacy of “Referral Game” . (No not the referrals where wings pass off girls to each other). It’s basically where he sleeps with a young woman (18-22) and then asks to hang out with her hot young friends then gets the girl he originally slept with to help him hook up with her hot friends.

        It made me suspicious because if this system supposedly works so well than why haven’t any of the other major PUA coaches been teaching it ? I can maybe see it working for a decent looking guy with solid game like James Tusk or Paul Janka in his prime. But for a guy who is 40 pounds overweight by his own admission and in his late thirties to early forties ?? Sounds more like the bullshit one would expect to hear from fraudsters like Deepak Wayne. [Yeah, it’s that kind of thing which makes me think he’s just another internet bullshitter. Also, if his results are so good – where’s the evidence? Sadly, the only thing it takes in the PUAsphere to get a load of followers is to make shit up and post regular content. Everyone wants to believe. If you can create a fresh persona and “new style” you’ll get lackeys. K.]

    • > [I think blackdragon is full of shit. K.]

      He runs really straightfwd, basically formulaic game (online and then MLTR stuff).

      My buddy MagnumLiveLarge learned BD’s online system (and know BD at a personal level), and Magnum crushes it online. It is half because BD provides a nice structure of a man that works hard, and 1/2 because even though Magnum is early 40s, he is build like a superhero, high value, dominant, etc. He kills it online, young, very cute girls, with several young, lovely girls that have been with him for about a year each. Magnum is the real deal, and makes me have a little bit more respect for online.

      I love to study, but I don’t like BD’s stuff… not tempted to study him at all. It’s barebones, straightfwd… and I’ve seen/heard it all before. I am not really looking for scaffolding, I’m looking for insight/mastery.. I don’t get that from BD.

      He is also a prick (worse than me) to discuss ideas with. He and I got into about jealousy on his blog (he is the “radical honesty” type) and it sucked… so I am wise to stay off his blog.

      I don’t like the guy, but at barebones, structural level… he as good as I’ve seen.

    • > Though I still maintain that online game is for men who don’t have the willingness or ability to learn cold approach pickup

      This is exactly right.

      And now… online is default. For the younger generation (both guys and girls), it’s the only “legit” way to meet people, as anything IRL is too rapey for their soft little minds.

      It has an extremely low “barrier to entry,” and thus, is flooded with competition and weak hands. Any dipshit can “approach,” and they do. I can’t imagine how horrible it must be to be a girl to have to screen in that environment. So many terrible offers.

      Meanwhile… daygamers are face to face, learning social cues, putting their balls on the line. For my part, I actually get honest time with “feminine energy” every time I am on the street (which I love). I was a slow learner, but even having done thousands/thousands of approaches… I am still learning, I’m still interested in the girls, I can still see new “flashes” of opportunity in set, I am growing, “the matrix is slowing down.”

      I have been on the street almost everyday in the last month in Japan. I get skunked some days, but most days are rewarding. Taking a lot of leads. Had a great idate/dinner/makeout with a girl yesterday. Dating a lot. Had a few girls in my bed (one in the last hour). I love daygame. It is the coolest thing I have ever done in terms of girls… no doubt.

      I will relocate to Sapporo in two weeks, and will start the whole cycle over in a new city. Very excited to “do it all again.”

      No way I would want to be in the “swipe right” space.

      “‘I was up to over 10 messages sent, for a single message received.’ This means that for every 300 women he swiped right on… he had a conversation with just one.”

      From the piece on the Sex Recession in the Atlantic. I think that is true of lots of guys. Jesus. No thanks.

  5. [I think there’s an Infinite-sized book in it. K.]

    Our dear K, if this is true, then dude you are amazing.

    I thought Infinite is as good as it gets. If there is more, then, man, you are a true genius.

    [Thanks. I have the infields sitting on my hard drive but not sure if I’ll do anything with them. I’m not just going to vomit them out like Stealth Seduction. K.]

    Simple, do what you did with Daygame Overkill. That was a perfect way to teach with the double bill (maybe include your checklists in the teaching session) then analysis.

    It’s funny you don’t realize you’re the Nikola Tesla of Daygame Nick. When you stop, all lights are out, because other dudes aren’t really into advancing the theory, or even have the chops for it. [Haha. Flattery won’t make the book any more likely to be written. K.]

    • Mr K. It’s not just flattery, although it is well deserved flattery.

      It is like we are wandering in a deserted place, surrounded by heavy, heavy fog, we can’t even see our own hands from the thickness of it.

      And we’re thirsty. And whenever we stumble upon someone, he turns out to be a charlatan. And instead of giving us water than quenches our thirst, the charlatan pisses right into our mouths and steals our rations.

      And when we finally found a true leader, you Krauser. Someone strong, knowledgeable, able to lead us to the promised land, a true Ubermensch in this foggy place filled with charlatans, we got hope. We see progress. You affected our lives. And we got happy. And excited. And hopeful. And willing to put all our effort, energy and even our lives on the line.

      But you, that gargantuan wise strong leader, in the face of our hope, looked at us and told us you have no more interest in leading us. That “Sorry, I am not interested in helping you plot the route out of this misery and into the promised land. Stay there lost in the fog. I’d rather just write about my journey and nothing more.”

      We love to read your memoirs and your journey. But now, we’re left here, alone, surrounded by charlatans pissing right in our faces, and almost in despair seeing you turn your strong back to us and shun us in the middle of the path. Lost in the dark forest with an incomplete map.

      So of course we want you back. We all need you to complete the map to the promised land. The fog is too thick, the charlatans too slick, and your wisdom too wide and deep to not share. [That’s poetic, mate. K.]

  6. ” [.. Also, if his results are so good – where’s the evidence?… ] ”

    ” I asked him in the comments section of his blog to post evidence of him sleeping with hot girls to which he said he doesn’t want to get sued. So I then asked him not to post any personal info just pics/vids of himself with hot girls in a completely public place to which he said that pics alone wouldn’t prove anything anyway and he would need to post screenshots of texts etc along with it which would get him sued… ”

    He just seems to come up with all these elaborate excuses every time the topic of evidence comes up. I can understand why anonymous bloggers like Mr White and Roy Walker Daygame can’t post pics but BlackDragon/Caleb Jones already has his real face and name attached to his blog so I don’t know how posting benign pics would harm him. [Exactly. These are the actions of a bullshitter. Roy Walker and Mr White are on the daygame circuit. If you visit certain Euro locations you’ll see them in set, and sometimes on dates. You’ll meet lads who know them. They may even show you photos from their phone gallery if you ask really nicely. They have people who have publicly proven themselves, such as myself, who will vouch for them. There are many many ways a man can prove his bona fides. Black Dragon has no excuse. K.]

  7. BD pushes online game as a way to meet women & admits he doesn’t do much daygame
    He’s never had a daygame product so I’m not sure why your treating him like a daygame coach!?

    • You’ve completely missed the point because you never read the criticisms carefully. Go back and read the comments again.

      Regardless of whether a man in question is doing daygame, nightgame or online game. If he claims to be consistently hooking up and dating many hot young women (a claim BlackDragon does make) he should back that up that claim with evidence. ***Especially*** if he is selling books or products about pickup and dating as BlackDragon does.

      Krauser mentioned above many different ways a guy can provide evidence of his credentials.

      • The whole video thing is subjective. He could genuinely film himself with a girl he met & I guarantee most guys would say it’s fake because they’ve convinced themselves already.
        You can have a guy getting numbers/dates on video but it doesn’t mean he’s banging the girls, it’s just YouTube click bait.
        If you have to see a video to decide if someone’s advice is worth it rather than trying yourself to see if it works, then that says more about you than the guy giving it. [Don’t be such a prick. This is the second time you’ve deliberately misunderstood the point. If you want to ride Black Dragon’s nutsack, more power to you. But don’t pretend (i) he’s proved his bona fides, or (ii) bona fides can’t be proven. I have no time for dissembling on this blog. K.]

  8. I haven’t misunderstood the point, I’n debating it. If you can’t discuss other opinions then don’t have a blog post where people can reply.

  9. Blackdragon doesn’t even need to be proved to be a fraud to be taken with a grain of salt, he OPENLY admits to paying $150 to have sex with girls for 15-20 minutes of sex. Source (comments): http://blackdragonblog.com/2018/08/06/the-difference-between-oltr-marriage-and-traditional-marriage/

    “$150 per meet”
    “usually around 15-20 minutes or so”

    Those are actual quotes from BD describing his sex sessions and what he pays. He’s also publicly stated that he runs sugar baby ‘game’ almost exclusively now, but then does an entire post on justifying why they are not prostitutes:
    http://blackdragonblog.com/2019/01/21/is-sugar-daddy-game-prostitution/

    He’s admitted to running this sort of ‘game’ for many years at this point, he also regularly refers to these ‘prostitutes’ as FBs (fuckbuddys), and he almost exclusively referred to them as that prior to going public about paying them.

    Also note this quote from the first link by BD: “My sugar baby FBs are great. But I once fucked two hookers in Vegas just to see what it was like.”. This was in direct response to a reader asking why he didn’t just fuck hookers instead of sugar babies. He flat out admitted to fucking hookers to justify why he prefers sugar babies over hookers BUT THEN in the the second post I linked above he claimed:
    “I have literally never paid a prostitute for sex… While I have never paid a prostitute for sex, I have had sex with one or two professional prostitutes in the past for free via normal game.”

    Which is a contradiction, and means he was either lying in the comment on the first post or in the second post. Someone called him on that contradiction and this was his response:
    “Ah yes, I forgot about those two. They were not hookers nor have I ever used any kind of hooker service like back page. They were sugar babies from Seeking Arrangement. I called them hookers because they felt like they were hookers”

    That was just an excuse to dig himself out of a lie, because he used those ‘hookers’ as a direct example of why he prefers sugar babies to hookers and also claimed he fucked a few hookers to ‘see what it was like’ but then suddenly they became SBs who just felt like hookers when called on the inconsistency.

    To sum up BD. He is an overweight, 40 something guy, who is married to a late 38yo woman who he met post wall. He has a black ‘son’ to his ex wife (who is blonde haired and blue eyed) who he raises as his own. He claims to fuck 10s with the major caveat that they are ‘personal 10s’, he believes no objectivity exists when rating women, so his 10s could be your 6s, and he openly admits to paying for sex. He claims to have a 15+ girl roster through inference (http://blackdragonblog.com/2019/01/28/the-story-of-my-history-with-women-part-15-long-term-relationships/), I think there was another source where he claimed it was 20 but I can’t find it, but then has to resort to paying $150 for 15 minutes of sex, why would you pay for sex when you have a roster of girls that large?

    Having said that, he still has an open relationship with his post wall wife (verified), and she knowingly allows him to fuck his prostitutes on the side, and he has the money to be able to comfortably afford these prostitutes. So that is certainly something, Many men have to cheat on their wives to fuck prostitutes, and cheating comes with a whole heap of complications. So that is definitely a better model, but it is nothing revolutionary.

  10. BD from the sounds of things is a huge scammer.

    Let me get this right.
    He is overweight, in his mid 40’s and supposedly kills it online?
    Oh dear, you poor delusional fools who fall for such rubbish. [CMQ, JMULV, Deepak, Allan Roger Currie, Natural Lifestyles… I don’t even try to keep up with it anyone. I got fooled a couple of times and since then it’s been easy to spot the frauds. K.]

    The question I’ve asked myself for a while now is what’s the difference between a competent daygamer and someone who gets great with girls?

    It’s a tricky one as there’s so few who are at the top

    • One thing that irritates me even more than the fraudsters themselves are the guys who are themselves legit but partner up with the scammers for co promotions gigs.

      Torero has skills but exposed his audience to both Justin Wayne and BlackDragon.

      Rollo Tomassi is legit as well but exposed his audience to Christian MCqueen, Alan Roger Currie and a bunch of other bullshit peddlers through the Red Man Group and 21c.

      Both these guys could have done well without co promoting with scammers but they cared more about boosting their clicks and views than protecting their readers from snake oil salesman. [I agree. Tom is shameless in seeking money. He’d invite Hillary Clinton on a podcast if it would sell product. He’s never once used his public position to police the boundaries of daygame from frauds. I think that’s as much because he’s a physical and moral coward as it is from having an eye to co-promoting with the successful fraudsters. I have a ton of respect for Rollo so I try not to judge him for RMG and 21C. I think those events do have value and his choice to expose his ideas to a wide audience will help many people. However, it does stink. My guess is he has private misgivings but has decided the positives outweigh negatives and he doesn’t feel it appropriate to air his misgivings publicly about men he shares the stage with. I haven’t asked him though, that’s just a guess. Rollo has a long track record in helping men for free and not monetizing his fame. So, I don’t think he can be accused of cashing in. K.]

      • I definitely value Rollo Tomassi’s unique perspective as a man who has both studied psychology at the university level and also has real world experience with banging alot of hot chicks. One would be hard pressed to find another man with such a well rounded view of intersexual dynamics.

        One thing I dislike about him is his tendency to have strong knee jerk reactions to anyone who even slightly disagrees with him. On two separate occasions he went on a twitter rant against TD Daygame calling him purple pilled or “upstream” whatever that means. His responses came across as complete straw mans. [Well, I’m not the right person to complain about someone who does that…. K.]

      • Hey Krauser

        You should speak at 21CON Poland this July. You’re such a badass I don’t know if the platform will withstand your greatness, but we can humbly try our best here at 21 Studios.

        Or you can stay in the UK like a giant pussy with your thumb up your bum.

        Your choice.

        – ADJ [I’m happy to speak if it’s a genuine invitation. K.]

      • Tom ought to address the fact that he has no loyalty to anybody. Like a Pavlovian Dog at the slightest whiff of women he only cares about Tom Torero.

    • > Rollo has a long track record in helping men for free and not monetizing his fame. So, I don’t think he can be accused of cashing in. K.]

      People have called me salty, and if I am salty about anyone… it’s Rollo.

      Rollo is an analyst. He is a solid “defensive coach.” He has many smart things to say about the SMP… but he is the antithesis of anything seductive. He should have a seat at the strategy table, but shouldn’t be allowed to talk much… as he’ll scare the troops and kill morale.

      He has helped raise awareness that women can bite (which they most certainly can)… and he has retarded as many men as he has helped…. convinced an army of men to toward an internal view of victimhood (muh female imperatuh!!!). That is not a proper end goal for a man.

      He has no offensive. No charm. Men that spend too much time with him are likely to move backwards interms of being appealing.

      He is a vibe killer, of the worst kind. [I haven’t read Rollo in a long time, but I was always of the impression that he specified lots of his dark writing was about the theoretical “feral state” of women rather than actual female behaviour. He always recognised few women go fully feral. K.]

      • I think of it this way.

        If a guy has trouble getting laid or wants to live the player lifestyle than I would recommend PUA material like Krauser’s Daygame Mastery and Daygame Nitro as The Rational Male does not contain a detailed guide to practical game techniques. Though I still find it useful as a guide to “inner game”.

        On the other hand if a guy is already competent when it comes to getting laid but simply wants to improve his relationships and dating life in general than I would recommend he read The Rational Male as Daygame Mastery would be simply an unnecessarily large amount of information relative to his goals.

  11. Hey Krauser, Any plans to come to the Baltic states to teach daygame bootcamps? [No plans. If I get a good offer, I might. K.]

  12. “He’d invite Hillary Clinton on a podcast if it would sell product” hahahaha

    No denying his daygame skills but Tom always struck me as a thoroughly selfish, manipulative individual. He simply doesn’t care about anyone.
    I remember when you stood up for him years ago when he was caught faking an infield. I doubt he would have jumped to your defence as quickly.

    It’s interesting that quite a few top pua’s are rather unpleasant.
    Yad is another who I’ve seen with my own eyes acting in a shitty way. Steve Jabba I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw him.
    The Natural Lifestyles guys, Sol, CMQ etc all have dead eyes.. [I agree. Tom is a fake friend who stabs you in the back the moment it’s helpful to him. There’s a long list of people he’s done it to. Sol and CMQ are outright jokes, totally fake. TNL, oh my! the shit they do. Put it this way, their entire business is fake and paid actresses are a big part of it. Their real business model is to scam chodes into covering their hooker bill. They don’t use game to get laid. They use the pretence of teaching game (which they don’t have) to generate revenue to pay for the girls they hire for sex. K.]

  13. Holy shit, didn’t know TNL were that dirty.
    Sadly proves a point the vast majority of companies are grotty scammers with zero integrity.

    Wayne, Bradicus, some fat guy who I can’t remember (claimed a ridiculous notch count), berba, Sol, CMQ, RSD (apart from todd imo), yad, countless others.
    No wonder this industry has a terrible reputation.
    99% are criminals.

    Literally count on one hand the genuine lot.
    Yourself, st attraction and todd
    Lol [I suspect I’m too harsh on Todd. What little of seen of him in the past few years, he seems to be much better since leaving RSD. K.]

    • I don’t consider street attraction good. Met them a few times. They’r not particularly good looking but I can see many girls liking them just because of their looks so long as they don’t operate too far out of their ping range.

      Even RoyWalker I don’t consider to be particularly good. I know he’s a good friend of yours Nick but its’s my prerogative as an active daygamer to wish to disagree. His phlegmatic countenance on his lay reports give a lot away. Don’t get me wrong he does get laid but not purely based on game. And if your a male six then that is your best bet. Applying meticulous game.

      Tom Torero (Pele of Daygame to his detriment), Nick Krauser, Yad (only early years when he was unstoppable), John Bodi, Jimmy Jambone and Andy Yosha. Everybody else can fuck right off as far as i’m concerned they are leveraging their looks.

      Does Todd look like he needs game to get laid doordie2013? Your having a laugh! [You’re welcome to your opinion of your peers. I disagree but I don’t see anything offensive there. K.]

      • Roy if your reading this I have nothing but love for you mate but how has a man who’s accomplished 25 lays last year slept with only one 8? I have only 3 daygame lays and two of them were solid 8’s. Perhaps my rating system is off (I’m open to being called out) or we’re just different type of fighters. Either way I’m happy for any man getting laid for free. [You’re in London, right? Come to the event and you can both compare notes. K.]

      • I wasn’t going to go but it would be rude to turn down a personal invitation from the legend that is nick krauser. See you there all being well. [Lol, thanks. It’ll still cost you £20. K.]

      • LOL

        Street Attraction ,Richard in particular (as I haven’t seen much of Eddie or the other guy infield) is one of the best daygamers.
        By quite some distance.

        His personality, vibe and knowledge is very impressive. I used to think he might be a bit too high energy at times but he can pull it off.

        I don’t really get your point about Todd?
        You’re saying he’s good looking so he doesn’t need game?
        Oh dear.

        I’ve seen Todd with my own eyes chatting up a 2 set with his wing. His wing was far better looking than him.
        Todd is just about average height, generic fashion (black t and jeans), average physique and looks. Very pale too like a tired vampire lol

        He’s not pulling hotties based on his looks.
        He has an air of smugness that girls quite like.

      • Roywalker from the sounds of things is a very hard worker. I would imagine he’s not in the same league as the other guys I’ve mentioned but discipline, hitting the streets and some decent knowledge will get an average guy laid.

        You rate Bodi and Andy Yosha above street attraction?

        Hahahahahahaha

      • I think you’re conflating the ease of daygame with how good someone is. Just because someone works harder it doesn’t imply they are shit. No-one does 20 approaches and walks away with Y-H-T.

        There’s levels of difficulty to this. Reason why I listen to Nick is because he is a normal average looking middle aged guy (sorry nick!) banging girls in their prime. I couldn’t imagine doing this in my forties. I digress.

        I’m not going to talk smack about SA as they are decent men but they don’t need much verbal game as I’d already mentioned quite a few girls would be into them just by having a generic bullshit conversation. Game is about outwitting/outmanoeuvring nature and Richard simply doesn’t need to play against nature as he can get a decent sex life without shifting out of second gear. So long as he remains normal.

        Anyone who aims high and gets laid gets my approval. Otherwise fuck off as it isn’t the same thing.

        That was my only point.

        John Bodi and Andy Yosha are big on the verbal dexterity. Richard isn’t. Thus they are better according to me. Unless interviewing girls about multiple orgasms at 1 AM in Leicester Square is classed as strong verbals. Don’t get me wrong I rate Richard highly and I’m sure he aims high and succeeds however he basically doesn’t need to.

        Todd is an above average looking muscular white male getting above average looking white females. That’s a decent sex life. Most normal men need Game just to be able to scratch the surface. To have a tolerable sex life that is. Todd doesn’t.

        There’s so much bullshit peddled around. I can understand Nick not speaking the truth due to his position and connections in the industry but I have no reputation to uphold so fuck it.

  14. Blackdragon doesn’t even need to be proved to be a fraud to be taken with a grain of salt, he OPENLY admits to paying $150 to have sex with girls for 15-20 minutes of sex.

    “$150 per meet”
    “usually around 15-20 minutes or so”

    Those are actual quotes from BD describing his sex sessions and what he pays. He’s also publicly stated that he runs sugar baby ‘game’ almost exclusively now, but then does an entire post on justifying why they are not prostitutes.

    He’s admitted to running this sort of ‘game’ for many years at this point, he also regularly refers to these ‘prostitutes’ as FBs (fuckbuddys), and he almost exclusively referred to them as that prior to going public about paying them.

    Also note this quote from BD: “My sugar baby FBs are great. But I once fucked two hookers in Vegas just to see what it was like.”. This was in direct response to a reader asking why he didn’t just fuck hookers instead of sugar babies. He flat out admitted to fucking hookers to justify why he prefers sugar babies over hookers BUT THEN in a second post he claimed:
    “I have literally never paid a prostitute for sex… While I have never paid a prostitute for sex, I have had sex with one or two professional prostitutes in the past for free via normal game.”

    Which is a contradiction, and means he was either lying in the comment on the first post or in the second post. Someone called him on that contradiction and this was his response:
    “Ah yes, I forgot about those two. They were not hookers nor have I ever used any kind of hooker service like back page. They were sugar babies from Seeking Arrangement. I called them hookers because they felt like they were hookers”

    That was just an excuse to dig himself out of a lie, because he used those ‘hookers’ as a direct example of why he prefers sugar babies to hookers and also claimed he fucked a few hookers to ‘see what it was like’ but then suddenly they became SBs who just felt like hookers when called on the inconsistency.

    To sum up BD. He is an overweight, 40 something guy, who is married to a late 38yo woman who he met post wall. He has a black ‘son’ to his ex wife (who is blonde haired and blue eyed) who he raises as his own [Lolol. I so totally hope this is true. K.]. He claims to fuck 10s with the major caveat that they are ‘personal 10s’, he believes no objectivity exists when rating women, so his 10s could be your 6s, and he openly admits to paying for sex. He claims to have a 15+ girl roster through inference, I think he claimed it was 20 at some point but I can’t find it, but then has to resort to paying $150 for 15 minutes of sex, why would you pay for sex when you have a roster of girls that large?

    Having said that, he still has an open relationship with his post wall wife (verified), and she knowingly allows him to fuck his prostitutes on the side, and he has the money to be able to comfortably afford these prostitutes. So that is certainly something, Many men have to cheat on their wives to fuck prostitutes, and cheating comes with a whole heap of complications. So that is definitely a better model, but it is nothing revolutionary. [Good detective work. I don’t suppose you have a few links or screencaps of where he says this? I mean, if it’s all true then he’s a very very pathetic individual. This is JMULV-level loserdom. K.]

    • Would have to dig up the exact quotes but I do remember reading everyone one of these above mentioned things on his blog since I read quite a lot of it.

      He rationalizes the sugar baby stuff as being more efficient since he is supposedly a time strapped businessman but it begs the question of why a man who allegedly has solid enough game would even bother experimenting with sugar daddy sites.

      What’s even more hilarious is that he convinces himself the sugar babies he fuck are genuinely attracted to him and it’s not just about the money. Here’s one of his posts where talks about it. [Article read like rambling pedantic rationalisation to me, but not a smoking gun. Really pathetic losers in the comments. K.]

      http://blackdragonblog.com/2019/01/21/is-sugar-daddy-game-prostitution/.

    • I cornered him once about his open relationship system, “Just to be clear; you are saying it’s ok if your woman can go and fuck other dudes if you can sleep with other Women; “cos monogamy doesn’t work”?
      He didn’t respond.
      He seems a tad autistic, puts himself in embarrassing predicaments and can’t argue himself out of it.
      He was adamant that Trump wouldn’t win in 2016 and wasn’t very humble that he was wrong about it either.
      Having said all that I found his ebooks “get to sex quickly” and “younger women Manuel” are good material.

    • [Good detective work. I don’t suppose you have a few links or screencaps of where he says this? I mean, if it’s all true then he’s a very very pathetic individual. This is JMULV-level loserdom. K.]

      Yes, I originally posted that message with source links to his actual posts/comments where he says all this on his own blog, but it seems to have got filtered out (perhaps a spam filter?). Everything I’ve said is 100% verifiable and is scattered throughout his blog and comments.

      I’d post the links but it won’t let me? Let me try this, you’ll just have to replace the (dot)…

      paying $150 for 15-20 minutes of sex:
      blackdragonblog(dot)com/2018/08/06/the-difference-between-oltr-marriage-and-traditional-marriage/#comment-389467

      black son that is not his described in this post:
      blackdragonblog(dot)com/2013/01/24/having-children-as-an-alpha-male/

      Post describing his post wall girlfriend (now wife), Who he openly lets sleep with other men while he pays for prostitutes:
      blackdragonblog(dot)com/2016/12/08/details-girlfriend-oltr/

      Anything else you wanted to verify? [I found it in my spam queue. Thanks for the links. See my latest post. K.]

      • “The lucky lady was 31 at the time, six years older than me.”

        “She had a five year-old son at the time who I made my son.”

        “Fortunately, my son’s bio-dad is a loser whom he doesn’t even remember, and was living in another state when we got married, so it was game on. She was a white blonde Barbie, and her son was a fun half-black half-white hyper kid. She became my wife, he became my son.”

        Eh no, blackdragon you became a cuck – a supernova cuck, looking after a mixed race kid ffs and he has the gall to call himself “Alpha”.

        ^^^ Goes a long way to explain his hatred of race aware red pillers, Trump, “right wingers” etc. [Lol. A full-on Portland Fag. K.]

        Thanks for that @TheTruth.

  15. What about a list with every name who’s legit and you can learn from them. It would be interesting to name what strengths they do have.

    – Nick Krauser

    – Tom Torero

    – TD Daygame

    – Roissy

    – Rollo Tomassi

    – John Bodi

    – Mistery

    – Etc…

    Of course there’s overlap between them, all them learned from each other to a certain degree. Some are better in some areas and worse in others, etc. For example Tom Torero is strong in Game propper and biological truths but he doesn’t go into politics, sociology, race realism, etc as Roissy or Krauser go…

    What are your thoughts, what else names would go into this list… [By all means, but we aren’t putting together a WoW posse where we need a tank, a healer, a mage, and an archer. K.]

  16. We’re living in a very deceitful age.
    Nothing is as it seems.
    Surrounded by lies and manipulation. [How do you know I didn’t just make this comment up myself using the edit function? K.]

  17. @dexterdaygame
    James Tusk I’m not sure about for obvious reasons.

    Is it scammy for an 8+ guy to be teaching others how to seduce women?

    It’s a tricky one but on the whole I wouldn’t recommend guys get coaching from him. [I met James a couple of times last autumn. We had beers. He is exceptionally good-looking, like a catalogue model. He’s also smart and charismatic. I can’t comment on his game because we didn’t do any. I have no problem with him. We got on well. K.]

  18. Breaking News The Daily Wail; Prince Harry admits to private “PUA coaching” from “Blackdragon”.
    – Admits he couldn’t have met Megan without his help.
    Lols [Megan is a wall-hitting mystery-meat yachter whore. BD would like her. K.]

  19. Hahahaha you can’t comment on his game?

    He doesn’t need game.

    He just needs to approach and escalate.

    I get where you’re coming from though not wanting to speak bad of someone who seems a decent guy.

    I stand by my point though. An average guy wanting to get good at game has to do far far more than just approach and escalate. Watered down game doesn’t even scratch the surface.

  20. Very curious about the TNL stuff. How do you know all they do is pay actresses? [You’ll have to take my word for it (or not). Can’t tell how I know. K.]

  21. Nick, it’s been a while. Would you want to come on my personal podcast and talk sometime? [Would love to, thanks. K.]

  22. @pinkpantherpua

    You’re wrong.

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