I’m learning languages, I am

June 11, 2021
krauserpua

Back in the days when I was a wandering bad boy type trying to bang girls from assorted countries [1] I used to quite deliberately avoid learning the local lingo. Part of this was sheer necessity: in any given year I might be in six different countries with six different languages, so which one should I start with? Often I had no idea when I’d next be in a country and a couple years could pass before I’d be back. Learning to speak a barbarian tongue is a longwinded process [2].


Then there was the pick-up reason: you want the girls in your frame. When you encounter a girl keen to learn English you have a more internationally-minded piece of skirt than the average, and she is communicating with you in a language you are the native and she’s the wannabe. That’s a nice frame advantage for you. Not speaking the lingo also bolsters the wandering playboy archetype you r-selectors are selling.


There was always one big drawback: you lose sets on the language barrier. Only a small minority of non-English speakers like you enough to suffer Google Translate dates. I started to encounter a second drawback with the higher quality K-girls: they expect you to have a bit more to you than booze, shagging, and skull rings. They are thinking how you’d fit into their life, and that means eventually introducing you to friends and family. Are you gonna show a bit of investment in her country and culture, or sit in the corner tweeting “in comms, maybe +1 tonight”? [3]


So, having turned over a new leaf in K-selection / attention span / fitness / anti-ageing and whatnot, I decided to try learning an aforementioned savage tongue. I’ve narrowed my wifey countries down to Serbia and Russia so that’s the two to learn.

Ja mislim da ti si izgleda kao vrlo luda


Next question: how?


I always assumed I simply wasn’t good at languages. I don’t have that type of brain. My experience in Japanese seemed to confirm it took an awful lot of squeeze for precious little juice. Then I was chatting to my Canadian pal Juggernaught when he was a year into his residence in Bosnia. “Was weird in the cafe today, I could suddenly understand what everyone was saying,” he said.
“Brilliant! How long you been learning?”
“Over a year, but the first nine months were wasted. Everything accelerated since I started meeting my language tutor every day. I’ve been doing that twelve weeks now.”
He explained more about his method, including his false starts, and a few things became apparent to me:

  1. I shouldn’t take my Japanese experience to heart. It’s literally the hardest language in the world for a native English speaker to learn. Per the guideline language tables, it takes 2,200 hours to learn Jap. By contrast, Spanish takes only 550. So I wasn’t to assume all the ding-dongs learning Spanish in Mexico and Colombia were simply better at languages. Maybe I could do it.

2. Serbian and Russian are both slavic family languages so there is lots of crossover in vocab, sentence structure, and underlying mentality. It’s not like doing two 1,100-hour languages. More like one and a half.

3. Part of my problem was the classroom approach of my Japanese language school. I’d gotten too much bookish learning so that my reading and writing outdistanced my listening and speaking, which is the wrong way around. Taking turns in class and spending lots of time learning vocab lists and grammar exercises means your language skills never leave your frontal cortex. It never comes naturally.

4. There are some great apps around now that simply didn’t exist a few years ago.

5. The best way to learn is to simulate how kids learn. That means a focus on ‘comprehensible input’, meaning introducing simple language within a meaningful context. Think of how parents talk to young kids. Language schools focus too much on production (speaking/writing) and on studying books. Natural language acquisition is nearly all input, overwhelmingly listening. When you understand what people are saying to you, production is easy.


This video was a good intro for me on the style of learning I’d try.


My rule is to learn the language of whatever country I’m in (expecting it to be just Serbia and Russia). From mid-January until last week, that country was Serbia. I’ve hammered my apps for four months and tried a bit of light dialogue with taxi drivers, my PT, and ordering food and drink. I’m happy with my progress. Next time I’m in Serbia I’ll hire a language partner to begin the process of making all my learning accessible in real time. Now that I’m back in the UK, I’m starting on Russian.


The guidelines say it takes 1,100 hours to learn Serbian. I’m now 220 hours in, or 20%. It feels like about 20% of the way there. I’ve covered the A1 material and half of A2. I’m picking up things in conversation though I miss most of the meaning in longer or faster sentences. Early days.

Izvinite, da li zelis anal?


The two apps I’m using most are Glossika and Ling. The former is ALL comprehensible input. It selects five sentences then gives you the English once and Serbian twice, randomised over 25 reps so you get 5 of each sentence. I’ve done 25,000 total reps, taking 150 hours. The best thing about Glossika is you can set it to review previously-studied sentences, turn the microphone function off, and then just set it away. I do that at bedtime with the light off so that I can study while observing my no-screen-time sleep protocol.


Ling is similar to Duo Lingo, being a more active app. You do small challenges such as translations and word matching. It also introduces language in a more didactic structured fashion, organised according to thematic topics. I’ve completed all 50 units, taking 70 hours.


Like I said, it’s early days. I remain hopeful that I’ll get functional Serbian and Russian eventually and with it, tall leggy hot birds with big tits and good cooking skills.


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[1] An outside observer may conclude nothing much has changed
[2] As I found to my chagrin learning Japanese ages ago
[3] You big daft cunt

19 Comments

  1. I’ve found no better method for learning languages than Pimsleur’s audio lessons, which follows the principles you describe. Got up to b1 in German with them, then did the rest through reading books, watching TV, living there etc.

  2. If you want to learn a new language, the best method is “Michel Thomas” (you can find Russian here: https://www.michelthomas.com/learn-russian/). I learnt English like this. It is very easy to memorize because you practice a lot to speak. You learn the language with 2 students and it is gradual like daygame (beginner, intermediate and advanced).

    By the way, when are you planning to release the last volume of your memoir. I have to finish my collection 😉

  3. Yeah, Pimsleur is very good. Try the MICHEL THOMAS method. Is also VERY good. I’m learning russian as well.

  4. I’ll give you credit for spending time in Serbia before choosing the language. But didn’t Roosh waste a lot of time learning Russian? You don’t want to keep switching your goals.

    How much time have you spent in Serbia versus Russia? Are you planning to move there for most of your time? Do you know anybody who has accomplished what you are trying? I will be more optimistic if there is a community of British expatriates in Serbia, married with children.

    You are smart and disciplined enough to learn languages. But suppose you take a couple years in Serbia and then go to Russia instead. After another couple years adjusting to Russia, you will be fifty. If your wife is fifteen years younger, then you will face fertility issues. It might be better to find a younger, provincial girl.

    But lately, it seems like your are exercising, vacationing, and giving pick-up lessons. You are not immersed in the Serbian culture, with job, church, friends, or hobbies. This does not seem like a good fit for finding a Serbian wife.

    • These are good points

      Finding a wife can’t be rushed but as you say there’s not an unlimited amount of time.

      I’m guessing Nick is aiming for a girl at least 20 years younger than himself

      • ” immersed in the Serbian culture, with job, church, friends, or hobbies. ”

        That is an interesting point, The challenge with traditional or conservative girls is that to become their husband or boyfriend its not enough for them to be attracted to you. Her family also need to approve of the man. A traditional girl by definition won’t openly rebel and marry a blacksheep for lack of a better term.

        Any foreigner is going to find getting the family’s approval an uphill battle and becoming immersed in the local community seems like a bare minimum to get around that hurdle.

  5. Kids are idealized as language learning savants, but they’re actually pretty bad. It takes them a few years to say anything, a few more years to say anything much, and a few more years to talk at even the level you could get to in a month or two in Serbian. You should focus on listening and speaking and learning vocabulary.

    Listen: anything with subtitles. Listen, see if you can repeat what was said (not what it means), just the literal sounds (then try to decipher it.) Repeat. Do it without looking at the subtitles and check with the subtitles.
    Speak: Say as much as you can all the time, make 1,000,000 mistakes. Tell the teacher/date that you want her to correct every mistake.
    Vocab: Anki spaced repetition flash cards.

    1100 hours is 2 hours a day for a year and a half. That’s probably what it took me to learn Serbian.

    • “Kids are idealised as language learning savants”

      Thank you! It does get quite annoying when people are wowed by kids (esp. their own) mastering languages quickly, when pretty much anyone could do that if your head was LITERALLY EMPTY, you didn’t/couldn’t grasp the most basic of concepts (=> natural syntax learning but barely any semantics) and had absolutely 0 worries in the world. [You’re missing my point. The result of kid’s language learning is they think and speak naturally in that language. It’s not about the speed but quality of the learning. K.]

  6. wouldn’t it be just better to go to russia/serbia and try talking a little in russian/serbian with people you meet. You brain has to process everything fast. It would be under pressure. Unlike now.

  7. Your friend is on to something, with seeing the language tutor everyday. Before I used only apps for learning Vietnamese. Made more progress in 2 weeks with a tutor than 6 months on them.

    Interested to see what your next obsession will be. You should give poker a go.

  8. Hey man! Any update for your last book? Cheers

  9. What is the probability that Nick successfully executes this cliché plan? Young man travels to the land of hot women, learns the language, falls in love, and forms a lasting relationship. Except that Nick is no longer young. More importantly, Nick went to Serbia nine years ago. He is a smart chap, and would have figured this out long ago if it were really his destiny.

    By comparison, we would pity a forty-year-old spinster who decided she was suddenly going to find a relationship. We would mock a 30-year-old unemployed actress who planned to become a star. And we would deride a twenty-five-year-old girl’s aspiration of becoming a supermodel. If these things could happen, then they would have happened already.

    Of course, Roosh poisoned my whole attitude. Roosh drifted through Eastern Europe aimlessly, seducing different women like Sisyphus. Every time he succeeded, the relationship would collapse, and he would end up alone in his squalid apartment in an industrial shithole, having learned nothing. Ultimately, drugs shocked him into realizing the pointlessness of his life. So, he got religion and made his life pointless in a different way.

    I don’t fault Nick for staying single. But he has not even chosen a country. Nick visited Serbia nine years ago, and Russia eight years ago. Make up your mind, Nick!

    • @KL “So, he got religion and made his life pointless in a different way”. A desert religion too lol. Same with that Victor Pride dude. Someone outta do a blog post on guys like these finding Jesus (seems to be mostly Americans) and what really motivates it? Is it the autism coming out? – The “One” solution for life fallacy.

      • Roosh just interviewed Milo Yiannopoulos, another alt-right troll who conveniently got religion after he crashed and burned. Except Milo was flaming gay, and now claims to be straight. LOL.

  10. Looking forward to this journey. We seek similar goals, but are operating in different ecologies. Good luck.

    Regards

    Big daft cunt

  11. I’ve found in my (brief) experience of being an Englishman who can say I speak (some of) another language that girls find it quite surprising and impressive.

  12. Hey Krauser,

    For comprehensible input in Russian, check out Red Kalinka, ispeak-russian , real Russian club. Olly Richards at I will teach you a language also has a great comprehensible input course that explains the principles of Russian grammar through stories. Lingq also has some Russian stories with audio for beginners.

    If you are looking for stuff to watch, Orel i Reshka has a ton of content with English and Russian subtitles.

    Good luck

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