Failure stories #2 – The Russian business girl

October 13, 2013
krauserpua

Here’s another failure story for you eager beavers.

Three months ago I’m walking through Green Park with Bodi in early evening. I’ve had a decent day and collected a few hopeful numbers and even had an idate with a very very hot Mexican tourist whose short shorts and tight halter top had my tongue hanging out when I first saw her. The Mexican subsequently disappeared onto the next leg of her Euro-trip after a bit of inconclusive Facebook chat – her interest levels and availability weren’t high enough to move things along to a Day 2. As we come out the top of the park Bodi sees an Italian girl waiting at the bus stop a micro-second before I do and he’s in. Perfect prospect for daygame: squirrely, cute, bored, dreamy….. he gets a strong hook and bounces her to a nearby cafe.

So I’m left twiddling my thumbs and it starts to rain.

I walk towards Piccadilly and run into two cute smiley girls with long term boyfriends. Nice chats but nothing doing. So I settle down into Caffe Nero and go off the clock. My session is done, I’ll just relax in a comfy chair and wait for Bodi to close out the idate. Half an hour later he shows up grumbling that she was eye-spazzing and loving it but commited to her boyfriend.

Sustaining weary daygamers since 2009

Sustaining weary daygamers since 2009

Those angry men in the “all girls are sluts” phase would do well to bear this in mind. For every girl I do fuck there’s at least five who massively fancy me and would be massively up for it…. except they will not cheat on their boyfriends. And I do test them hard. I’m one of the sharks who smells blood in the water and can pry a girl away from her man but even then it fails far more times than it works. Maybe it’s because I normally go after good girls and screen out slutty tattooed party girls. But also it’s because most girls are not on the carousel. Girls are not notch-centric so when they have a good thing going with their boyfriend they’ll turn down other offers. Carousel girls are a strangely masculinised bunch that are not representative of the wider female population.

The rain reduces to a drizzle and dusk settles over the streets of London. Black taxi cabs whizz past and office workers rush home protecting themself from the rain with a newspaper held over their heads. I have an 8pm date with an Italian horror movie starlet (which goes nowhere, I find out later) and it’s 7:50pm now. We walk outside.

Sitting at the bus stop is a lovely voluptuous girl, a Brazilian by my estimation. She seems to flash me a look but it’s very subtle, possibly nothing at all, and I remind myself I’m off the clock. Then she looks at the timetable display, gets up and walks off a few yards behind us. Oh well, might as well flip the stone….

She gives immediate spazz-eyes and beaming smile. It’s like the moment they turn on the Regent Street christmas lights. Wow, she’s into this! She tells me she’s Russian and here on business, leaving early tomorrow morning. I take a number and say we can meet later tonight for a drink. “Let’s have the drink now” she says. Gritting my teeth I have to tell her no, I’m meeting friends. I calculate my Day 2 can be done within two hours and tell her let’s meet 10pm. It’s agreed.

Actual girl, in Krauser disguise

Actual girl, in Krauser disguise

So I meet the Italian and do a decent job but it doesn’t really click. My phone is almost dead when I text the Russian “where are you?” She waits outside a restaurant in Leicester Square until I collect her and walk to Waxy O’Connors, a dark Irish pub with some nicely secluded rooms. The checklist gets ticked off fast.

Her: I’m married.

Me: I don’t care.

Her: Neither do I. It’s not going well. He’s cheated on me and I’ve cheated on him.

She’s lovely too, about 26 and with a flat stomach and great curves. I kiss her within half an hour and run accelerated rapport as the clock ticks. Her flight back to Moscow is 6am and she says she hasn’t packed her suitcase. I give it two drinks in Waxy’s until I seem to be getting green lights. It’s now that I make a tiny mistake that causes my crucial judgement call ten minutes later to be the wrong play.

I fail to check her logistics. She tells me she’s in a hotel in Ladbroke Grove (ten minute cab ride) but I fail to ask who she’s staying with.

So when we go outside for a nightcap and taxi I tell the driver to go to her hotel. It’s a difficult decision because my place is three times the distance and with her early flight she’s more likely to protest. I figure it’s quicker to her place, she’s more comfortable there, and it’s less likely to trigger anxiety over not catching her flight.

As we arrive at her hotel I walk her to the lift and she pipes up “we can’t go to my room, I’m sharing it with a work colleague”. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. One tiny mistake has jeopardised the whole SDL. I walk her to a disabled toilet and push her inside. She’s horny and making out but giving it “No, not in a toilet”. I try forcing it but she’s giving a firm no so I have to relent.

Okay, one step back. We settled into the hotel bar for another drink. More rapport and comfort. More sex talk but the vibe is chilled as the relentless escalator to sex has been paused. I probe her further but get nothing I can use. So finally it’s past midnight and I have to make a final play. I walk her around the hotel looking for anywhere sexworthy – a conference room, closet…. anything. There’s nowhere to fuck her. I keep stopping her to make out. She’s grabbing my dick, wanking me off, I’ve got her tits out and in my mouth in the hotel corridor but there’s just nowhere to drag her. She won’t go to her room, won’t go to a bathroom, won’t do it in the corridor. It’s logistically fucked and she’s massively horny.

How it should've ended, yesterday

How it should’ve ended, yesterday

She tells me she has to sleep and get her flight. She’ll message me next time she’s back in London. So far I haven’t heard a peep. It’s a dead lead.

28 Comments

  1. I am totally into Russian girls and in my opinion they are the definition of sex. When I read that she didn’t care that she was married I really wanted to know how this could be a failure story. Sometimes you are out of luck and the logistics are against you…at least she wanked you off 😉

  2. Nowhere to have sex in a hotel? Is it losing the Game to rent a room?

  3. I have to admit. Most of my failures all come from bad logistics.

    But based on the open/hook rate i’m getting, i’m very successful and have to approach maybe 2-3 girls before 1 completely hooks. Sometimes, all it takes is 1 approach. But i’m very likely to rent a small 1 bedroom room somewhere near Leicester Square.

    Logistics is so vital when it comes to getting laid. You can get everything right, but if your logistics are poor. You are sure to fail. I missed out on a lot of lays with some stunners because of it.

  4. **For every girl I do fuck there’s at least five who massively fancy me and would be massively up for it…. except they will not cheat on their boyfriends. And I do test them hard. I’m one of the sharks who smells blood in the water and can pry a girl away from her man **

    My kind of guy. Warrior Sigma energy

    Also interesting is your idea of girls not being “notch-centric”. You believe the “carousel girls” phenomenon less widespread than the manosphere makes it out to be. I have not heard this before

    You seem to think “Taken” girls are much harder to seduce. “Taken” meaning comfortable inside the reality of the man she happens to have in her life

    Again – I keep coming back again and again to the idea of “Deep Conversion” as being a pivotal, crucial step for converting girls into “Taken” Girls. Especially on the prime fillies you want to keep around for a while. [It’s not whether a girl is in a relationship that matters, it’s how happy she is with it / how fully in the man’s reality she is. K.]

    • Nick is right with his observation. I used to be intimidated by guys who would overtly flirt with my ex gf’s, but then realised that it’s not an effective way to game girls, especially ones who are taken.

      Nowadays, I would be more concerned if my gf was having deep conversations with a guy, because I know now that it’s the connection between them that would cause her to want to eventually sleep with him.

      I’ve had similar situations with a Polish girl recently who’s in an LTR with a guy from Poland. Polish girls are notorious faithful when it comes to relationships. But having built a connection with her, she was easily malleable enough to get physical the minute she had the smallest of problems occur in her relationship.

      In other words, if there are any cracks at any point in a girls relationship. It’s at this point a guy with good game has a chance to get the lay.

      It’s all about being at the right place at the right time. Either that simply keep these girls orbting and game them from a distance. When the time is right, pounce!

    • Krauser,

      As a married man following Athol Kay’s strategy, I’m very grateful to you for sharing this.
      I am confident in my ability to keep my wife in my frame, and thus faithful.
      But reading the manosphere I sometimes get the feeling that I’m naive.

      Also, any other tips for us LTR guys would be appreciated.
      E.g. tell-tale signs that our girls are cheating, or are ready to cheat.

      Or even (for science, really!): musings on how men can successfully cheat, or arrange threesomes with their wife, without sabotaging their LTR or family.

      It’s the only topic that nobody, including Athol, does not cover.
      It’s something I spend a lot of time thinking about.

      My wife does not mind if I have a few indiscretions to blow off steam, as long as it’s only sex, safe, rare and with someone way, way outside of our social circle. These are also my conditions. I don’t want complications and I don’t want to lose the oneitis (wife goggles).
      A hooker/escort would be ideal, but I don’t see the fun in that.
      I want the chase – it has to be earned.

      Personally, I’d rather blow off steam in a threesome with my wife, so I’m still strategising on how to arrange that, i.e. to get a beautiful single girl to want a threesome with my wife and I. And I don’t want a tatted up STD farm.
      The wife is open to this, as long as it’s an agreeable girl. [Go to a LGB bar with your wife. Sit in a prominent position having a drink with her, kissing her a little. After an hour send her onto the dancefloor with her eyes wandering to other girls. Wait for a suitable bi-sexual girl to approach her. After they’ve connected, she brings the girl back to you. Chill, be friendly, have a drink. Then suggest you all leave together, probably your wife doing most of the leading. K.]

  5. the difference between K and the rest of the manosphere is that he walks the walk. many high quality women won’t cheat, and you only find that out by – you guessed it – gaming high quality women.

  6. As others mentioned, I enjoy reading these failure stories because it reminds me that I’m not the only one struggling!

    I’ve had two missed lays because I couldn’t get it up, and another missed lay from a girl from club that looked like my ex; because I was playing it too safe, and i didn’t even try to escalate to sex location (and didn’t have condom).

    Seems the only way to get over it completely is to bang another chick. haha

    I hope to read more of these failure stories.

  7. Krauser, is the Game about becoming a psycopath ?

    It’s a very serious question, unrelated to your post. [No. It’s about choosing a more successful identity and enforcing your boundaries. K.]

  8. Good stuff on including a picture of the girl. Although with the dark lighting it is a bit hard to see if that particular girl is a fitty or a rotter.

    This could actually work quite well. Just carry around a pair of glasses and get your girls to wear them. Would this strike a balance between providing proof to new readers of your blog and preventing mental trolls from somehow stiring up trouble by finding the girls and linking to your blog?

    If it is the same pair of glasses in each photo that is further evidence that you have got on the girls (not doubting your word, but some idiot could just search for pictures of girls, post them up, and claim that he shagged them). This actually avoids needing you to be in the photo with them.

  9. Krauser, well p[played in a very hard situation.Similarly, if you were on a date and a girl had to get up at 5 the next day would you still have led a date to a hotel or would you personally have assumed insurmountable resistance?

  10. So Roosh strikes out with a hot Ukranian and you can’t get a Russian 9 in the sack. What hope is there for the rest of us?

  11. Nick Krauser ‏@Krauserpua 3h
    @degorgr I mean in pick up not marriage
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    Nick Krauser ‏@Krauserpua 4h
    Women only have as much power as you give them

    Agreed. Marriage is “Provider Chump” Game enshrined into law.

    When you get married as a man, you basically agree to become her “Provider Chump”. Athol Kay game can only go so far.

    You’re obligated to provide day in day out, whereas she has “option” of putting out (sex). Why put out if you’re there slaving away whether she puts out or not.

    You are a Controlled Man as a Married Man. Stage Two: A woman is only sexually attracted to a man to the extent she cannot control him, or he remains always slightly out of her control “Women want the unattainable”

    No wonder a woman’s sexual desire whittles down into nothing.

  12. I’d be interested to know your take on this K. Pretty chodey approach but its interesting to see how much this guys value sky rockets when he goes to drive off in a lamborghini ha! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iyeUcFKRv4

  13. This is a great story. Thanks for the share!

  14. I just looked at Bodi’s blog to which you link. His story of the SDL with you as wing is an interesting third person perspective. His observation of you controlling the frame, speaking slowly and loudly is funny and also informative. Is that loud, slow, delivery calibrated for the venue and time of day? How did you get used to carrying the conversation even if you find yourself speaking on things inane?

  15. Would you ever consider marriage again, what about having kids?

    What is your opinion of the settling-down path which you once engaged in before you went in the opposite direction?

    • Yeah, this is an interesting topic

      There are guys who married while Blue Pill. They came into Red Pill in the midst of being married, having obligations and kids… while things keep falling apart, and they are literally becoming different men

      How many men would have made completely different life decisions if they heard the name “Rollo Tomassi” ten years ago

      • @Lucky. I was also married for a short time. Then had a series of relationships good and bad up until the catalyst that made me discover game. Part of the importance of learning and knowing game is not to regret the past but to create a better future for yourself.

        I try not to look back except to relate how I WOULD HAVE acted in a certain situation and what the results were vs how game strategies both inner and outer can change the outcome.

        K’s posts on things that didn’t work are enlightening because they demonstrate that despite being a Grand Maestro there are always learnings and there is no such thing as “perfection”.

        The huge takeaway I get from this blog is the way to avoid wasting time, the strategies for becoming better at reading girls and situations.

        The point is not to indulge in wishful thinking or harbor resentment over the “bitch who did me wrong”—but to analyze the situation, determine how to make it better next time.

      • Interesting

        Any resentment would be my own. The more Red Pill I get, the more I find it’s impossible to get angry at a female over anything. Females just are who they are, and do what they do

        The problem is when there are kids involved. Ending marriages are easy when there are no kids: most people would be gone yesterday if that was the case

        Red Pill knows that kids require a intact family with strong father. Monogamy may be unnatural, but the intact nuclear family is an unnatural thing that actually works.

        The statistics show that broken families turn kids into broken adults. A world of more adjustment problems. And when you divorce, you are basically breaking up a family and taking a father away from your children. There is no way around this. “Seeing them on the weekends” doesnt make up for it

        So you get into questions of: What does a Red Pill father (oxymoron?) actually owe his children.

  16. Hi Krauser I am from India, I am a regular reader of your Blog. This is the best pick up advice i have ever read. They are very practical. But few days back you were updating regularly. But from past few days i am missing your updates. That too facebook pickup conversations and flags. Hope you get more flag options. Please do update the conversation openers and continuers

  17. Krauser, do you meditate? Every daygame instructor now seems to recommend it…

  18. Hah I know that porn clip very well.

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