Here’s a snippet of a facebook chat I had with the 20 yr old Polish virgin. This is from December so I hadn’t yet gotten her to masturbate over sex chat (I might post that later) and she hadn’t yet agreed to come to London so I can take her virginity (I might post that later too). This snippet is mostly rapport building, framing myself as her leader, and then qualifying her on her character…. we begin about half an hour into the chat when she’s asking why I like her.
Me: No What I mean is, I was initially attracted to you because of how you looked and danced But that happens with 100s of girls. So then I check your facebook and I see you are actually a normal, balanced person and then we chat, and I see you are thoughtful and coy Having all 3 things together is quite rare, and I like it [qualification]
Her: i don’t wanna be like 100s girls 😛 hmmm, I think… I’m not really coy girl 😉
Me: you are with me. Why so different to usual? [our world]
Her: hmm, I don’t understand.. you know – my english.
Me: You are coy with me. You are not coy generally (you said) why the difference?
Her: ok….I don.t know…. maybe I’m coy… maybe it’s my real nature.. perhaps it is a problem with men…
Me: Have you ever had an orgasm during sex? [Hat tip Moran for using this to screen girls. I didn’t know she was a virgin at this point – it’s only 6 weeks after I met her]
Her: !!!!!!!!!!1 it’s so personaly… *personal [likes boldness but remains coy]
Me: yeah, but girls who are not comfortable with men and sex usually can’t orgasm they have to learn to relax first [from the Moran playbook]
Her: I know that..
Me: get their minds straight
Her: nexer mind;) *never how was you’re day? 😀 [she’s not comfortable answering yet so I let her snip the thread]
Me: great I built a snowman, as you know Been writing a book Having fun with friends you? [DHVs]
Her: ooh.. great, snowman like kids 😉 my day…was hard early get up.. sport, sport… much sport… and university..
Me: sport? nice [reward, reduce my words]
Her: yes.. sport and after a little dance.. what’s the weather in London? [she wants to keep this going]
Me: COLD brrrrr brrrr
Her: In Krk it’s snowing… soo cold
Me: Not surprising maybe you should take your trousers off [sexualise playfully]
Her: 😉 I don’t think so 😉 you haven’t good ideas 😉
Me: so rude!!! [tell her off, playfully]
Her: 😉 ohhhh no 😉 I’m not rude :0
Me: Haha I know What dancing did you do today?
Her: salsa..and a little bit rumba.. but.. i was tired and I didn’t have power for the rumba….
Me: I did some salsa before. I didn’t know rumba required power
Her: to much sport before 😉 it’s sexy dance… and girl have much work 😉
Me: nice [reward]
Her: 🙂 you’re busy now…? I don’t want to disturb… [worried she’s interfering in my life, a sign that she perceives herself as lower status than me]
Me: Not especially. Chatting to friends around the table in our conference room I’m fine. I enjoy chatting to you [comfort]
Her: nice 🙂 thanx
Her: sorry….but I think….. some men are prats
Me: Me too? I’m kinda lazy and selfish [false disqualifier]
Her: no..,not you.. now….I talk with man like that – prats wrrr I hate liar
Me: Yeah, so many men hide their intentions and use bullshit [begin an honesty frame – I want her to feel she can open up to me, and not just her legs]
Her: yes, I hate these I think, that some these are immature arses. Sorry for the words
Me: haha, you REALLY don’t like them 😀
Her: I’m angryyyy he lie to me
Me: he? Are we talking about a specific guy?
Her: haha….ok…..it;s not important.. I apologise, that I wrote it.. I’m angry and I don’t think 😛
Me: I’m fine You weren’t being mean to me You can tell me anything you want I’m interested to know what motivates you
Her: wrrr anger is motivating me 😛 haha in short:
Me: I’m listening [get her to open up and you have her]
Her: he wanted to cheat me…. he said, around there is no woman… and had her I hate these… I hate when the man lie to me
Me: yeah, I hate dishonesty I think you should show someone who you are. And if they like that, great. if they don’t, move on and find the person who does like you People who hide themselves behind lies are not confident that people will like them for who they are
Her: I am not hiding myself…. I mean….I think that.. I think that too much I probably expect the boy …hmmm
Me: No. You respect yourself, so you have standards [qualify her]
Her: I only want so so that he respects me, he didn’t lie…
Me: Yeah, you have to learn to read people better. Most people give you all of the information you need, without realising it
Her: it’s sad that all the time this way I am conned… I am credulous
Me: How old are you?
Her: 20 [YES!!!!]
Me: there’s the answer. You are still learning about the world and about people [frame myself as mature and her as needing guidance]
Her: yes…but it’s not fair
Me: Be patient You can’t rush maturity and experience Just keep trying your best to do the right thing, and to learn from every experience [telling her what to do, but with benign intent]
Her: after what you said, about your first impression to my …. I think, around I am retired 😛 hehehe
Me: so no more sexy dancing from Dorota? 😦
Her: I’m too old 😛 😛 😛 <lol>
Me: yeah, 20 is virtually 40
Her: haha;) I know;) I’m not dancing sexy…
Me: send me a sexy photo [sexualise]
Her: no, I haven’t
Me: Take one now [hold the frame]
Her: I don’t want to… you can see my photo on FB.. on my gallery ok, it’s late a bit 😉 thanx for the conversation and advice 🙂 have a good night 😉 [slightly uncomfortable]
Me: yeah, I enjoyed it sleep well 😉 [release]
I’ll post some of the further chats later. This one is going well.
March 29, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Whats with the photo – you sure?
March 29, 2011 at 2:05 pm
K, you may now be the foremost practitioner of facebook game amongst the pickup community – I certainly haven’t found anyone who uses it to such good effect and I read widely. The few facebook seduction products out there are very poor.
Clearly these facebook “groomings” (makes K sound like a pedo 😉 ) take quite a time investment on your behalf – would you say the returns justify the effort expended as compared to taking that time and investing it in volume of cold approaches and subsequent face to face meets?
Or maybe you just really love those SB lattes!
March 29, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Facebook and msn game is easy and u can have concurrent converations so the hit rate is much higher. Plus u can escalate quicker as girls asd is lower over chat. Beats going on loads of dull dates on the offchance.
I actually came to the conclusion thats its a show of beta to agree to a pre determined date before escalating sexually, at least over text. Theres nothing more common in london than an attention whore ready to waste your night keeping you guessing. Texting and iming gives you that head start.
March 29, 2011 at 9:17 pm
she wanted to emotion-tampon you and you asked for skin. classic
March 30, 2011 at 12:42 am
BAM! “take a sexy” just out of nowhere. your a dangerous man krauser…
March 30, 2011 at 7:41 am
Tricky this calibration business is – you break a number of the roissy and elsewhere stated cardinal sins of texting/emailing, almost becoming an emotional tampon, using a shitload of emoticons, keeping your inner K beast suppressed until almost the last line… shes obviously a good girl and not a slut and needs more delicate handling than most but I wonder how far you can retreat into betadom even with a girl like this, before you pay the price…
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