The Imaginary World Of The Tate Brothers

July 26, 2020
krauserpua

I already did a little online due diligence on con-trepreneur Andrew Tate‘s kickboxing record, proving quite easily that he’s a liar. Go read it here. I don’t actually have a problem with Tate: as far as I’m concerned he’s a lolcow– that is, a public figure who exists purely for normal people to point and laugh at. If you are dumb enough to swallow his bullshit then you deserve everything you get. My problem is more with all the manosphere/Red Pill charlatans who keep inviting him on their shows and promoting this shabby liar. They have a duty of care to their listeners that they are flagrantly derelict in.

So, I wasn’t particularly invested in exposing all Tate’s other lies. The kickboxing record was enough for ‘umble Krauser.

However, while sitting in a cafe bored with Jimmy, I thought that as an experiment I’d see how many lies I could find about Tate in just five minutes of online searches. I’ve been saying for months that these Red Pill/Manosphere podcasters are outrageously negligent in not doing any due diligence on their guests. Or, more likely, they are complicit in the lies. So, in order to win a beer from Jimmy, I challenged myself to run a Five Minute Online Due Diligence Test.

Andrew Tate wouldn’t be a controlled experiment, as I already know about him and his whores, rented sports cars, grubby suburban compound, fake ForEx business, and so on. But, maybe he has a brother?

Mrs Andrew Tate

Lol

Oh, the indignity! Google records him entirely in reference to his big bro. So, let’s look into Mrs Andrew Tate a little and see if he’s engaging in the same false front building as his bro.

1. The Kickboxing
As you can see from his IG profile, he too claims to be a K1 World Champion. So, I searched for his kickboxing record and…. I can’t find it. His big bro was quite successful on the amateur/semi-pro circuit but Tristan Tate fought at such a low level that you can’t even find out who or where he fought. He may be the first K1 World Champion in history to have an unrecorded title fight! [1]. Jerome Le Banner must be really pissed!

Tate IG

lol, “weapons”. Did you fall for this, Cerno?

Tristan is a kickboxer, though. Just not a top one. Watch this fight here:

Note how sloppy his technique is. Winging wide open punches, stumbling forwards, falling into his shots, and it’s like both of them are moving in Bullet Time. They are harder men than I am – no doubt about that – but this is not world class kickboxing. I respect guys who fight, but I repeat the same as about his big bro: the real story is impressive enough, so stop lying about it! Go watch actual K-1 Max to see what world class really looks like.

Sherdog MMA record

As for MMA, he had one fight against a nobody and got knocked out in under two minutes. No shame in that, but not indicative of a world class fighter.

VERDICT: Liar

Musashi Tate

2. Natty or Not?
Tristan has a habit of standing shirtless in car parks holding cheap Chinese-made swords. Presumably that’s what Musashi Miyamoto would be doing were he born in our epoch. There’s no question Tristan has a very buff, muscular body. So, imagine my surprise when he claims in his IG that he’s natty. Let’s do a before/after comparison. So, taking a still from the above kickboxing video we see how he looked after years of training, and compare that to a recent IG post, taken about eight years after the fight.

Natty or not

Not only has Tristan been the first ever kickboxer to have an unrecorded world title fight, he’s now the first ever bodybuilder to make his most significant natural muscle gains over ten years into his training. Not even Arnie could do that! Note also all the obvious testosterone / anabolic tells: grossly over-developed shoulders and upper arms, traps eating his head, glowing leathery skin tone, extreme muscle fullness at low body fat percentage. It’s pretty damn obvious.

VERDICT: Liar

3. Buying IG followers
The Tates would have you believe they have built organic social media followings based on good content, networking, or some other social media magic. However, the fastest and easiest way to grow your online follower stats is to simply buy them. We can test for that by checking out Social Blade, a web analytics site that analyses social media accounts to track when followers were added and lost. The obvious tell for bought (i.e. fake) followers is that you get a massive spike for a day or two, then gradually haemorrhage followers. So, let’s look at Tristan.

Social Blade Tate

Oh! What a surprise!

VERDICT: Liar

4. Planting articles
Did you know that there are blogs and “news” sites whose business is entirely about accepting money to plant articles on their site? Forbes magazine does this, taking money to run puff pieces, a trick used by many high-budget con-trepreneurs. But what if you’re low-budget, struggling to get by in the suburbs of a third-world shithole like Bucharest? What if you can’t afford Forbes?

Fiverr and Upwork are your friend. For $10 a go, you can get some Indian or Filipino to write a puff piece on you in broken English then plant it on these fake sites. But why would anyone do that, Nick? Why would anyone lie on the internet?

896

It’s to paper the first page of Google with articles you control, so that if anyone does Google you, you get what they want you to see. It’s a way to push a false narrative [2]. So, let’s Google Tristan and see what pops up.

google papering

Note all published in same couple of days

Oh!

So, he’s planted essentially the same article a half-dozen times on fake news sites. Some of those sites even explicitly state they publish any old shit if paid.

Tate puff piece

Click on them. Note same articles slightly rewritten, all in terrible English

VERDICT: Liar

All of the above took me just five minutes to find. That’s all it would’ve taken Troy Francis, Hardy Haberland, Rollo Tomassi, Bobby Dino et al to know that they were inviting a liar onto their shows. It’s all it would take you fucking goons [3] to figure it out, rather than ask me questions in the comments, “what do you think of this guy?”

Red Pill Charlatans

Shame on you, manosphere dupes

Is Tristan a cool guy? I don’t know. Scrolling through his IG I’m actually inclined to think he’d be a lot of fun to hang out with. He’s a competent amateur kickboxer, works hard in the weights room and kitchen, and is pro-actively going after the lifestyle he wants. He seems pretty chill too. A guy like that is normally fun to hang out with.

But, would I buy any of his products? Would I take him seriously on any issue whatsoever? Absolutely not. His entire public image is a false front, built with shameless, premeditated lies. He’s a bullshitter. Bullshitters are often good crack to go drinking with [4] but you never let them near your wallet.

I haven’t gone into Tristan’s hookers, staged photo shoots, or sock puppet accounts as that would’ve taken more than five minutes. I think I’ve done enough to demonstrate that lies and bullshit are a persistent feature of every aspect of his life. You can draw your own conclusions over if he’d also lie about his sexual hijinks.

[1] I shall now update my IG profile to claim the WBC Super Middleweight title.
[2] I experimented with exactly this tactic for my band.
[3] It’s been a while since I insulted my readership. I was starting to think you miss it.
[4] Tom Torero and Antony Hustle are both engaging company in person, for example.

85 Comments

  1. You got some front Nick slagging off the Tates, you want to watch that Geordie potatoe cake eating mouth of yours or it might end up with no teeth! As for jimmy “incel grandad fake wannabe rock star ” jambone who gives a flying fuck about him! You and him are not worth the steam off the Tates piss 😂. Also white van man says you are a cunt…

    • I just want to point out Nick is two years older than me so if anyones is the grandad he is.

    • Yeah Nick, you jealous incel grandpa, stop bad-mouthing the Beast of Bucharest, LMAOOO

      Btw. if per footnote [1], you actually do add WBC Super Middleweight Champ to your profile, you should add smth like “Scourge of Serbia” under it too :))

      Hope you enjoyed the pint as much as I enjoyed the post!

    • Any comment on Cerno marrying a [edit]
      Rollo having a daughter and wife that [edit]

      Is the manosphere one huge con? [Though I have points of issue with Cerno and Rollo, they are good guys and I won’t have their families attacked here. K.]

      • Rollo’s daughter is following the career path of a feminist. He is a joke and his wife is also older than him.

  2. He’s a scammer but out of the lot you mentioned he’d get girls the easiest (hot ones too). [There is literally no evidence of this. K.]
    I don’t like him or his brother going by their shit YouTube channel. Neither of them are hard in real life. It’s all front. Andrew Tate was on Big Brother many years ago and played the snakey villain that everyone hated (females in the house couldn’t stand him). He was a gossipy bitch who got owned by Marco Pierre White’s son lol

    Troy Francis is full of shit. He’s not good with women at all. The complete opposite of a renegade playboy.

    Andrew is also on gear.

    This industry needs regulating. Rollo Tomassi licking Andrew Tate’s ass when he’s interviewing him is cringe.

  3. secret profile of Tristan https://twitter.com/theplayersyear
    Most certainly hookers. [Yep. Been sent screen caps before he made it private. Hookers in same bedroom as Tristan and Andrew’s own IG photos. K.]

  4. I’d like to see a post on their Pick Up skills. From watching their youtube I saw that they all get rejected in Western Europe. But it appears that they have gfs in Eastern Europe. Also I believe them that they run a webcam business somehow they had the money to buy houses and sport cars in Romania. You can still see his privat Twitter if you follow it btw.

  5. What is the issue with Torero? Guy is a huckster or what? [Nah, not really, but I like to prod at him now and then. K.]

  6. Blind leading the blind. I’m starting out in the pickup business and even after 10 years I’m still not 100% confident and want to improve. I doubt and test everything. Yet everyone is super sure in their knowledge and what they’re bringing to the table. The more I go into twitter, fb groups I see scammers after scammers. They’re teaching you to be yourself, to build your value and women will magically come, that meditation is going to solve all your problems, they’re saying that approaching is low value. And the gullible masses are eating their shit up.

    Talking about eating. My offer for nutrition (health and longevity) coaching still stands. I won’t be able to explain it over the comments because it’s just too complicated but you have my email and you can reach me there.

  7. Andrew Tate is still fighting, this time its even worse, he’s not even fighting European or even national level competition now. He’s fighting legitimate beginners, and then making 20 tweet long twitter threads talking about how he can only fight world championship level elite fighters because he’s so experienced. He just fought yesterday lol [Yeah, that was so cringe. He fought an overmatched flabby beginner who quit after a glancing blow to the shoulder. If I was Tate, I’d be paying the fight promoter to bury the video so no-one saw how I was padding my record with stiffs. It’s the MMA equivalent of fucking a fat purple-hair from Tinder and tweeting +1. K.] https://twitter.com/OfWudan/status/1287792326115557376

  8. My main issue with the Tates is that they hold their customer base in such open contempt. They have this range of snake oil subscription-only offering with no peer-review or generally any feedback whatsoever. Nonsense terms like “PhD Programs” with the obligatory image of them displaying strong Asperger face coupled with cigar. This, in of itself is deemed to be sufficiently strong enough concept to convince men (many of whom are legitimately trying to improve their lives) to part ways with money that will undoubtedly provide the same useless Twitter diatribes but in video form.

    We had the Playersyear account (Tristan Tate) positioned as a genuine guy with game but this was simply a vehicle to build a marketing base until it was outed (change your bed sheets from time to time you filthy bastards even if it is just the room the webcam whores work in). But the message was the same, both Tates slammed the community as fakes and frauds while setting the community up for a Sting. 5k of idiots so far on that sock puppet account.

    And as Krauser has pointed out, we have the likes of Rollo platforming them (bet you can taste those juicy book sales eh, Rollo, quid pro quo).

    As has been said, if the Tates just stuck to being a couple of good looking baller dudes who had cheated the system a bit (and played with their SMV via the means discussed above) the community would have smiled and simply said more power to them.

    But they didn’t, so it can’t come as a surprise when the community bites back.

  9. @Nick

    If you can be bothered to do so check out companies house and you’ll see that every Tate brother uk limited company has been struck off for various shit. Non filing etc..

    No accounts have ever been filed on anything.

    You’re quite right to hold them in contempt. I’ve worked down in that region and it’s so poor that anyone western has women falling off them. Turn up in one of those cars and they’ll just be forming a queue. That’s not game, that’s desperate economic circumstances.

    He’s just cashing out chumps. It’s not good for men, and I’ve no idea why other manosphere leaders give him airtime.

    He will be paying a lot of protection down there, and it doesn’t get interesting until that escalates. When I had a business down there we ended up having to jump a flight and abandon it when it got too hot. And I was playing it straight.

    It’s gonna be an interesting thing to watch. Buy popcorn.

  10. Andrew Tate’s twitter is pretty funny and entertaining at times.

    Both those guys look like they’d pull a lot of ass anyway- 6’4 light skin black guys (Tristan looks completely European) in UK..forget about it. [Then why are they hiring hookers in Romania? Watch Tate on Big Brother to see what women really think of him. No amount of physique makes up for aspergers and low self esteem. K.]

    If you want to know about a truly interesting Tate, google Emory Tate, their father.

    Apparenly a chess genius.

    As an aspiring Sigma male, I’m inclined to admire him more than his sons.

    • Gamma to Sigma journey:

      I’m beginning to confront my ego now, and fuck its rough.

      I’m beginning to see why Krauser said on his podcast about Gamma something like ‘don’t confront your ego all at once, it’s too painful’.

      I’m beginning to see how pathetic my life has been, how much I missed out on happiness/success in my 20s.

      My life has been pitiful for the last 6 years or so.

      Only total focus on my goals, and dropping my petty battles, will redeem me.

      I need to stop escaping what is staring me in the face.

    • chad with aspergers is better than PUA with aspergers

    • The most genuine thing about the Tates is just how deeply and irreparably their father fucked up their psyches. Emory Tate was a chess master in the same way Andrew was a K1 champion – he won the US Armed Forces Championship (a mid-tier tourney at best) multiple times and could beat a grandmaster on his best day, but never had a truly successful pro career. This bothered him so much that he abandoned his family when Andrew was like 9 or 10 to dedicate his entire life to chess and… still never made grandmaster and died in poverty.

      Read any of Andrew’s stories about his dad and it’s clear that he was certainly emotionally if not physically abusive, and rather than admit he was frightened of or damaged by his autistic weirdo of a father, Andrew chooses to believe his dad had secret genius insights into how the world really works, and that the abuse he received was a good thing, and made him the man he is today.

  11. It’s a bit off topic, but you seem to know your stuff in boxing. Could you recommend me please a youtuber or a blogger who explains boxing? Thanks in advance [Lawrence Kenshin, Modern Martial Artist, Precision Striking, Rummy’s Corner. K.]

  12. Hi Nick, hope all is well. My Daygame has gotten tremendously better but still no luck.This is chooser Game after all. A little more than half are responding to my feeler text, I’m closing at 1 number in 2.5 some weeks, and getting more dates. Lots lost during texting phase. All I did was dress more like a bad boy. Compared to when I used to close 1 in 10 and almost all my feeler texts would go unanswered in 2019. This is very encouraging! I’ve copped 4 massive IOI’s last week and gone in. They either have a bf or think I’m a bad idea. 1 girl barraged me with 3 questions in under a minute! She said I sounded and dressed posh would you believe it! but didn’t want to give me her number. It’s all good though. So by all metrics I’ve improved but still no jollies. And now we have August. I hate August. Not asking for anything per say I just feel like a new person. A transformation if you will. I never believed I could improve un London Nick! All because I didn’t give up or more importantly I processed the feedback 🙂

    • Oh yeah, two hot girls hijacked the frame and invited me out while they were with their gf’s. Moved on naturally. So thats hindered this months potential success. 🙂

      • You could have gone out with them just for practice as long as you don’t buy them drinks etc.. start on the fattest ugliest one of the four and ignore the best looking one.

        Just sayin time in the saddle is valuable even if you don’t get an N+1

      • I mean, they definitely see me as more than just a friend but is it really worth being messed around? Also, it’s just a form of low investment. Tbf one lives out in Essex so I could understand her reluctance to travel in just for a low interest date. I’m just determined to not have my time wasted this year. Been down that road countless times! Also, there is that pull of knowing statistically you can find another one in 15-30 sets!

  13. @pinkPantherPUA

    I don’t know really. I haven’t got the full picture so I’d need a full field report.

    Did you hit on them day game and number close and then get invited out with a 4some?

    Anyway my point was that being out with a group of women would be a DHV and you could either game the group, or use the group as pre selection to pivot off and hit other women, or merge sets.

    As long as you’re not buying them drinks then it’s all good practice.

    No substitute for rubber on the road lol..

  14. Dear diary, I mean Nick 😉 Week 1 of cutting transformation complete. 6 gym sessions (3X2) morning heavy bodybuilding and evening cardio. I won’t be stopping until my obliques start showing. Turns out I’ve been bulking for the last 5 years. Funnily it is a form of avoidance as you are refusing to reveal areas in which you could improve/grow. Luckily I have some size so it should be interesting to see what I look like in 83 days.

    This is about more than just fucking hot girls in their prime Nick 😉 This is a fight for relevance.

    P.S bumped into Tusk, he has my word i’ll stop chatting shit about him.

    • Fuck me, lost 0.5lbs of weight last week (fat I hope, still hitting my macros). At this rate I’ll lose 2.2kg by week 6!

      I’m legitimately nonplussed right now. [Be sure to update us on every small change. K.]

  15. Off topic, but:

    Carb reload days >>>>>>>> cheat days.

    I cant believe I actually thought I could have a cheat day a week, while at the same time trying to get to 12% body fat when I’d been overweight for a decade.

    I had never heard of carb reload days until I saw your last blog post, so thanks for that Krauser.

    Now I just have 2 days a week where I have ~50grams of wholegrain + maybe a bit more carbs.

    I have eliminated the cheat meal in the last 3 weeks, and I am down to the weight I was at 18 years old.(I’m 31 now)

  16. Another victory for Tate.
    He almost reminds me of Charlie Zelenoff with all them wins.

    • Wow. Tate isn’t teaching the guy anything. All he’s doing is using a shorter, less experienced student as a punch bag. The thing is the student knows that Tate is better, so doesn’t hit him hard when Tate’s guard is down as he knows deep down that the response from Tate would be a bit of a beating. Even though Tate is happy to punch away at his student like he’s just a bag to hit. I know that pressure testing is a thing and it’s worth getting whacked a few times when sparring so you know what it feels like. But that’s not it.

      • I’ll also say that the student looks knackered at the begining so this was maybe at the end of a training session. So he’s fucked from the start. Also I’m surprised Tate didn’t tell him that his left hand is too low. It’s covering his belly, so his whole left face is exposed and hence he keeps getting hit there. A good/well intentioned instructor would hit him once and say ‘don’t drop your guard’.

  17. I read your ‘I blow a dead cert SNL by being a douchbag’ from 2011. I decided to go out solo in Camden World End amongst other bars. I spot a curvy girl in the queue easily the sexiest one and instantly think How would Steve Jabba be thinking psychologically before noticing the sexiest girl in the bar? Lo and behold, I’m ordering a drink and she runs her hands down my shoulder/arm and screams “sexy!” at me as her and her friend go to the toilets. Yes you read that right fellas an average looking man is sometimes sexy. I find a great place to nurse my drink and can’t seem to find her and think its low value to go looking for her. Night Game is not Game. It’s looking your best, rock up and have slutty girls choose you. Gives a break from trudging the streets so occasionally i do not mind. Your free content nearly got me laid Nick boy! 😉

    • Game kind of reminds me of secondary school were those special disadvantaged kids who were assigned mentors to help get them through their GCSE’s 😂 This shit is so difficult even when results are forth coming.

  18. Nick could you get in twitch, it’s a new popular free speech platform. Miss your comical posts

  19. Why was my comment about Belarus deleted? [It wasn’t, I just made the whole post private because Tee got his slap down, so job done. I don’t like all this Lukashenko support. The guy is an absolute cunt. Yeah, he’s right on homos and right on Covid, but he’s wrong on nearly everything else and a murderous thief. Belarus will do very well to be rid of him, even at the cost of falling into EU orbit. I can’t believe so many of the manosphere buffoons acting like the UK or US are more dictatorial than Belarus. Unbelievably idiocy. I’m in direct contact with several Belarusian girls and it’s awful what his thugs are doing. K.]

  20. Marauder’s Code:

    The future will hold death, decay and devastation.
    One must go back to their primal roots.

    Don’t welcome your neighbour with open arms;
    Be ready to cut him down without guilt, if he becomes a threat.

    Don’t crave the love of a woman, don’t seek meaning in one;
    See them as nothing more than a source of primal relief.
    Feel no guilt for your savage nature, as they innately feel no guilt for theirs.

    Don’t think of ‘Fair and Unfair’, think of ‘Kill or be Killed’.

    The zombies aren’t coming; they’re already here,
    In the faces you see around you.
    Pretty soon, they’re all going to want to eat your brains.

    Put down your smartphone, and pick up a sword.
    Stop trying to ‘network’; use that sword to sever all ties.

    Don’t let your heart hurt for the cry of a frightened baby, an abandoned child, a humiliated elder;
    These things are the norm in a savage society-
    You must look at them with an unaffected mind, and, dare I say it, a sick, expectant smirk.
    For you can’t defeat the monsters, unless you become one yourself.

    Learn to love violence, welcome the death of dreams, and laugh in the face of terror.

    Only desolation lies ahead;
    End your life now if it will be too much.

    If not, awaken your inner marauder.

  21. thanks for the great article!

  22. Honestly pal, do not take it as an attack. I do not want to shit here.
    The article is great The book what you wrote, Daygame Mastery is also a fantastic book.

    But let’s be real.

    I moved to a big city just for do daygame for a whole year…. and you know what? The experience was pretty shit. I made a lot of friends I had a very good time, did a lot of fun but the results with women was very awful. I had the emotional rollercoaster, did allot of sets, wandering around all day both in a very hot summer and also in the freezing snows. Dealing with AA and trying to think for a smart line on every girl, then they just saw my average FB profile where I converted my leads and of course hot girls wanted a high status guy. I am relatively good looking, just don’t have that flashy profiles on social media.

    Lets make some competition…
    Lets say you Krauser with the smartest push pulls on earth go to a club. Average looking englishmen 40 yr old. The club is in Romania.
    Tate brothers goes there as well… In Romania all the girls are desperate for a higher paid mens, for a higher lifestyle… (This is why western daygamers getting easier notches in the Balkan)

    So back to the Romanian club. You trying with the smartest push pulls on earth, and the sime time Tate brothers arrive. They get out their rented sportscars and they are going straight to the VIP. The girls saw this in the VIP. They do not need to approach. The girls giving them all the IOI-s and approaching them. Your push pull doesn’t matter anymore.
    Tate just giving out their social contacts, their instagram, where they will send out messages in bulk to girls later. But now you are competing for the hottest girl in the club… Yes, she is going to home with the Tate brothers. Tate brothers have a very mediocre game… Maybe awful…. They did’t practice as much. They didn’t put very much energy on it to learn game. Just chit chat talking. Later that night Krauser go home alone, as he gets 2-3% conversion rate when it comes to sex. Tate brothers fucking the girls. All the girls.

    That is the difference. Which is the smarter? All day walking on the streets, putting there a ton of energy, stress and AA for what? Which is the more effective when it comes to getting laid?

    Lets talk about it. Honestly, do not throw shit each other. What is the smartest and easiest approach when it comes to easy sex? [Your entire case is built on a false premise: that the Tates are doing well with women. K.]

    • ‘Lets say you Krauser with the smartest push pulls on earth go to a club. Average looking englishman 40 yr old’

      He’s well below average is Nick. He looks like something out of Lord of the Rings. Little pointy nose and big ears.

  23. I don’t want to pissing you off

    But I checked out this post: [link removed]

    It is the same what the Tate brothers are doing. Building yourself up to get easier notches. Is that right?

    I do not see too much problem about it, because everybody is doing it nowadays.

    I am started to following you on instagram, please accept it, let me see your post, how a Master PUA doing it.
    Thank you [Shove it. I can smell the bad faith on you. K.]

    • Please…there is no reason hurting my character without answering the points on my post. I am really curious about what you think, this is why I am telling this.

      Well, I already showed it, it was on the link…. It showed some rock band on a particular instagram. Isn’t it the same as Tate are doing? Just asking. Honestly asking.

      I am experiencing the same in my Balkan country what Tate guys are doing. Guys who has a really good instagram or facebook profile and showing those shitty and smelly 10 yr old bmw’s and shit like that… they are killing it with women. Because other men don’t even have those shit at all. And balkan women highly interested about getting status and getting a higher money flow lifestyle. They are interested for getting stuff, getting travel for free and things like that. And they are poor. This is why there are thousands of hookers here. They will suck your dick for 10 pounds on the street.

      ANd those guys on the instagram are doing it much better than a looser which was me when I tryed to do daygame. Getting the best profile and then going to a club and building ourself up the way to go.
      Yes I know a ballsy men who get love for himself are the best. But today’s environment are different. As I said I did a ton of daygame. Got all those weird looks from people… Did what you say and not care about it. But still people are watching and thought I am desperate for pussy literally running after it, then constantly getting blow outs. It hurts really badly. And yes you can smell some bad faith…. Or is it burned skin smell? I got blow out a ton. And put there enormous time.

      Please tell me what is working the best and why Tate brothers are doing it badly with women? I checked out some pictures on the internet, and Tate got a lot of stunners there are a lot of pics on google, and it is very believable if you check out the status what he is showing.( Yes I know that he is lying about a lot of stuff, but this is how it is today, right?)

  24. I am not just hilarious but also a total looser. A dickhead.
    Girls thought I am some weird fuck when I told them they look like giraffe and chipmunk… I looked like a total idiot 😀

    Today I am listened Tate and his associated friends, they talked about daygame, and they said that if you facebook close a girl from the street then she will check you out at home… and if your profile (and your status is the same) as the guys who already bombing her all day every day with messages… and you are not different… then highly likely she will flake and does not respond…. It is totally true…. but I already know the solution… how idiot I was… I should buy some followers, go to high end clubs, make pictures, get likes, flash some stuff and thats it. I am pretty damn sure that I would get a lot more dates in that way…. SOmehow Krauser forget to mention this very important thing in his books… Krasuer, are you doing that on your IG? some flashy stuff? [It’s very easy to spot bad faith in first-time commentors, no? Get lost, freak. K.]

  25. who the fuck are you to tell me what I am and what to do? You are a liar and a looser too. Let me explain

    I did not mind when you just called out people first, like Deepak, Jmulv. They are total loosers too.
    But lets see this post. I think you are very jealous

    The guy in the video above:
    – much better looking
    -much better fighter

    “Bullshitters are often good crack to go drinking with [4] but you never let them near your wallet.”
    The guy on the video easily would beat the shit out of you. Really easily. He wouldn’t hang out with you. The guy on the picture: he can kill you with a single punch
    wtf are you talking about?

    You can’t walk into close cars like what they are driving… maybe you don’t even have a car
    Check out what places do they are live in. You just made videos from a shithole, maybe it is just your parents house?
    They have a much more money than you. A body you just dreaming of.
    When they go to clubs, they get easily chicks. You need to do very hard daygame to get a 6, then pull it to your very smelly parents bed with and traveling very shit big red buses or bicycle. No hot girl wanna that
    They won’t even hung out with you. Ever. There is no chance. They are way above your level. You are just jealous. Yes they are faking a lot of things,social media, as you, you alread got exposed as well.

  26. “Smelly parents bed”

    Lol this guy is a nut

  27. I mean look at this guy

    https://ibb.co/qm07CxR

    Whether he got this body from roids or not, at 6’3 and a half, he is a freak.

    I think it is a bit ridiculous to suggest he would need hookers to get a hot girl.

    In Australia, he would pull ass without trying. He could literally be retarded and he would get laid.

    As for the Big Brother house- he was in a group setting and specifically trying to cause antagonism. Not to mention everyone was being recorded for TV.

    If he was 1 on 1 alone with some of those English slags, I think some of them would bang him.

    The truth is, a guy of his size and looks just doesn’t need game. He would pull more ass than 99% of successful daygamers by virtue of being selected for his genetics.

    His brother is arguably better looking.

    Women are extremely shallow with looks height and genetics. [I think you haven’t really gotten my point. The Tate’s lie about EVERYTHING. You can’t even trust them to tell you the right time. So of course they are lying about women too. Because of that, you need to ask yourself why they never provide evidence with girls. It’s always disinterested promo girls, club girls drinking their free vodka, and webcam hookers. Never real girls showing real attraction. Always ask why the absence of evidence. That overrules any logical case you try to make for why they MUST be doing well, despite the absence of evidence. Secondly, your logical case is wrong. Both Tates are extremely insecure and actually look it too, including that photo you linked. This is pussy repellent despite the good physiques. There are other things, but those are the obvious ones that should stop you falling for their bullshit. K.]

    • I thought this black girl interviewing him 10 years ago seemed somewhat attracted to him.

      She’s no looker but I think his energy was far more likeable then, even though it’s a bit weird/aspergers the way he doesn’t look her much in the eye.

    • Dude, think about it. If they lie about roid use, being world champoins and so on, what else would they feel comfortable to lie about? Their whole thing is based on perception. Posing in front of cars holding weapons and flexing their arms and looking angry. Why? So that you think these guys are tough and have money.

      Same goes for their looks. Sure they may get some girls but that hardly qualifies them to give advice. And of course why wouldn’t they exaggerate about the amount and quality of women they get?

      I know male model type looking guys who are shit with women. Stop focusing on what you don’t have and cultivate what you have. Stop wasting your time trying to look for evidence that the Tate’s are legit and that there might be some actual good advice they could give you( i doubt it ).

      Go out and talk to some girls, learn game, live is short.

  28. Krauser you are totally right

    it was cool yesterday, and looser today:

    View this post on Instagram

    I wake each day in my wildest dreams. #m5competition

    A post shared by Tristan Tate (@talismantate) on

    a club owner with luxurious cars, for sure can’t get bitches

    alpha male with sidechicks today:: https://krauserpua.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/comedy-fat.jpeg?w=1280

    krauser you fucked it up pretty badly…

    it is not “transformation”… it is called photography and photoshop skills… you are a total looser… and this whole post backfired pretty badly… because you are not really exposed Tate brothers,,,, they really making money off women, not paying them I am very confident about it…

    the worst thing that you are still talking bullshit… show only evidence… nobody cares about your rambling without evidence… get quality of evidence at least what you did with Deepak which was obvious… now you are trying to do only bullshit… it is hardly belivable from a loosers mouth. [Funny how I knew this sperg-out was coming based on his very first comment. K.]

  29. The comments section on this page is a fascincating case study of Aspergers.
    The insistence on logical syllogisms that they’ve learned by reading a pick up website, without understanding it, and without the discernment to tell if the authour is even credible…
    The faulty application, the inabilty to read even screamingly obvious body language and social cues…
    It must be hell on earth to go through life trapped in a mind like that. Like an AI robot with faulty algos that never really learns.

  30. I just recognized something… something what maybe the guys are here do not see.

    Who is disagreeing with krauser, the guy gets immediately markers like: bad faith, asperger and things like that.

    Why is that? Seriously… Are you that sure that this little 40 yr old potatoe head, without job, great income, living in his parents house, wanking for video games and reading books…. do he really knows everything?
    Do he really has the expertise calling everybody out if he thinks something? think about it.

    Do you know what this whole thing mean? I’ll tell you. This is a cult… A really fucking colf of krauser. Krauser acts about everything that he knows it all. He does not… Nobody does. He is stating that daygame is the most effective thing in the world.
    It is clearly not. Clearly there are better ways to do it.

    Daygamers are like the the newspaper vendors on the streets. Is it the most effective way to sell newspapers? Clearly not.
    Daygamers are house agents. It can work. But I think there are effective ways to sell that house. It is clearly misadvertasing and false information when you state that daygame is the best way to meet women.

    • Daygame is okay when you combine it with a lot of required things. Which are not stated anywhere.

    • I don’t understand what you’re arguing, menli.

      Did K ever tell someone not to make money, not to get a great physique?

      Stop insulting and whinging to him, and go and get money status and looks if you want.

      Your anger is just that of a guy who doesn’t have the drive to actually do those things.

      Get off your ass and make your life instead of insulting a daygame coach.

  31. I just recognized something… something what maybe the guys are here do not see.

    Who is disagreeing with krauser, the guy gets immediately markers like: bad faith, asperger and things like that.

    Why is that? Seriously… Are you that sure that this little 40 yr old potatoe head, without job, great income, living in his parents house, wanking for video games and reading books…. do he really knows everything?
    Do he really has the expertise calling everybody out if he thinks something? think about it.

    Do you know what this whole thing mean? I’ll tell you. This is a cult… A really fucking colf of krauser. Krauser acts about everything that he knows it all. He does not… Nobody does. He is stating that daygame is the most effective thing in the world.
    It is clearly not. Clearly there are better ways to do it.

    Daygamers are like the the newspaper vendors on the streets. Is it the most effective way to sell newspapers? Clearly not.
    Daygamers are house agents. It can work. But I think there are effective ways to sell that house. It is clearly misadvertasing and false information when you state that daygame is the best way to meet women.
    Daygame is okay when you combine it with a lot of required things. Which are not stated anywhere.

  32. I am sorry Krauser
    I have Aspergers.
    Does not mean it

    I am sorry

  33. I am sorry Krauser
    I does not mean it that way

    I was just angry. I am full of shit.

  34. I am sorry Krauser
    I does not mean it that way

    I was just angry

  35. Maybe I am naive but I have started to believe the Tate brothers are at least a little bit legit. I know another rich guy from Russia and he has a very similar mindset/way of being just like them. Except he does not flaunt his money online and is not interested in the rich image lifestyle. He is also 10 years older than them (in his 40s).

    They are not on steroids. I think you are dead wrong there. I dont understand why you think they are on steroids. Look at a videos of them. A lot of Africans have a muscular frame. They are half African.

    Even I as a Dutch guy have a muscular frame with low body fat. They are a bit bigger than me.

    Both are ex-athletes (amateur/pro). A lot of those people have a good muscular foundation. Just need to eat a lot of protein (red meat, etc.) (& carbs/fat) and you will grow. Tristan Tate looks more bloated, his conditioning is not good like someone who is taking steroids. He is just big. Andrew is more impressive esp. as a natural in my opinion but even he does not look insane.

    A friend of mine if he would be serious about training and diet could get more impressive than them. Guy never trains yet carries more muscle than me. Some people are built like bricks.

    Yes there are guys in the gym who take steroids and they look like the Tates. They have a bad foundation. So they take steroids and they look like that. Not impressive for a steroid user. But impressive for a natural guy.

    They probably have natural high testosterone and estrogen. Both growing factors.

    The girls is fishy. But I would not write it off.

    • Tristan Tate is definitely on gear and Andrew Tate may or may not be on gear but he probably is too. These guys are huge frauds who probably deal and use all kinds of drugs without any qualms. They obviously lie about everything and are total fakers. They are all about trickery and looking for the easy way out. You really think these guys are dedicated gym goers with good diets? These dudes are obviously way too lazy for that.

      Just look for older pictures of Tristan: just another lanky dude with some muscles. He’s a tall, good looking dude though, I’ll give you that.
      His current physique is *theoretically* attainable if you dedicate your fucking life to lifting and you really know what you’re doing, but I highly doubt that he does. In fact, I don’t believe it for one second considering all the booze and substances they’re doing.

      >A lot of Africans have a muscular frame. They are half African.
      Sorry but that’s just a retarded meme. The strongest men in the world are all white. Africans just run faster and are better at basketball and they tend to be more into sports rather than paying attention in school.

      I know a LOT about training and am very ripped myself with good strength (500lb+ deadlift) and decent genetics and I’ve never been on gear. I’ve known a lot of roiders and natty athletes through all my years of training and I have a very good idea of what’s attainable naturally and what’s not. Steroids are so common nowadays it’s a joke. Most roided meatheads have no clue of how to train properly and are actually kind of lazy but it really doesn’t matter because roids just makes them so fucking huge no matter how shitty their training is.
      So that’s the fucking “fitness red pill” (or black pill?) in a nutshell for you my friend.

      • Yes they are playing a game absolutely. Success porn. Using gullible guys to depart from their money to feel like they belong somewhere. Or to make them feel they are going to be successful. And then use the same money to create the image.

        But there is a big but:

        A lot of people have no idea how to eat specifically for size and hormone optimization. A lot of gym go-ers take creatine and eat a lot of garbage to bulk up. They think bulking means getting fat on junkfood and eating insane amounts of food.

        The average gym go-er and even fitness freaks, a lot of them are weak. They could be much better if they knew how to be. A lot of them follow standard fitness advice and even in powerlifting circles people are dumb as hell when it comes to optimization.

        I used to think like you buddy. I am a gym go-er for 10 years now.

        Until I saw some freaks in real life that I know personally. They are not freaks like steroid freaks where your jaw falls open in how crazy they look. They are like people who just have a natural muscular frame with minimal training and they dont even eat a ton of food. Although Tristan does – that is why he is bloated and pudgy looking. Look at the latest Tate Confidential video.

        Andrew clearly said he eats clean mostly. I think he is the most impressive. Lean with a good size.

        The guys with the natural muscular frame often have a high testosterone type of personality as well. It does not have to do with genetics per se. It is a good foundation in their youth. (ex-)Athletes are often quite healthy, they moved a lot and used their body and muscles. The average person sits behind a screen for most of the day doing zilch.

        Africans from my experience often have a good hypertrophy baseline. Maybe because strong slaves were taken to the US.

        Also I am not saying anything about strength or who is stronger. I think Europeans are better. Africans probably think they are better. That is a worthless discussion.

        They do not look like steroid users at all. They are not freaky. Tristan is big because he eats a lot of food and boozes a lot. Impressive for a normal person I guess.

  36. so tell me.. who is the G?

  37. Body:
    The Tates look natural to me. Pics can be photoshopped or whatever. But in the videos, they do look natural. They’re not bigger than their friend AJ Cortes who is definitely natural. And they’d be idiots to take steroids while boozing like maniacs. Doesn’t mean they’re not taking anything. Maybe they do, maybe they don’t, it’s impossible to tell. But who cares. Do you like their physiques? You definitely can build a body like that naturally, or something close to it.

    Money:
    These allegations are pretty serious…
    https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/cobratate-com-forex-signal-provider-is-a-scam-formidable-forex-powerhouse.64872/
    https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/formidable-forex-powerhouse-signal-service-scam-by-cobratate-com-my-case.65210/

    What’s going on there?

    They even link to a video where Andrew openly brags about his webcam hoes scamming dorks for money.

    He doesn’t even hide it:
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1288377/disgraced-bb-star-andrew-tate-boasted-about-being-a-pimp-in-a-sick-poem-and-branded-any-woman-who-isnt-a-virgin-used-goods/

    Women:
    Andrew and Tristan are attractive guys. I can see how eastern european women would fall for them. Looking good, flexing cars, status, throwing money around. Easy. Andrew and Tristan do have good verbal game too.

    Do they lie a lot? Yes, they do. Take it for what it’s worth.

  38. Someone recommended your blog after Rollo was being called out for promoting Modern Life Dating. I saw your post from 5 years ago and you were spot on. I’m curious on your opinion of Rollo Tomassi promoting these guys? I have found that Rollo does not practice what he writes in his books or his blog. He married his wife who is older than him when she was 31, when at the time women were married at 25. I’ve noticed some guys in The Red Pill talk a lot, but they are lying about what they actually do. What’s your opinion on some of the Red Pill guys?

    • TRP men are mostly scam artists pushing narratives to sell dating courses and books. Krauser has stated before that his opinion of Rollo is decreasing because of all the advertising he’s doing for obvious con men. Modern Life Dating has a criminal record of domestic violence/abuse in the US. He also has a history of scamming people and its why he ran to Japan.

      If you look at all of these Red Pill dating coaches they never have any proof of:
      1) The females they are supposedly getting
      2) The students who became successful players after buying their products.

      They mostly re brand stolen concepts from other guys who did the work before them. The only new thing I see is their online strategies by abusing dating app algorithms and Instagram.

    • I can name all of the guys in this PUA space who have Asperger/Autism or are narcissistic sociopaths/psychopaths. Either way they are liars and a lot of their infields are fake or the girl was being nice by playing along.

      Here is a list of guys I’ve seen off the top of my head:
      Real Social Dynamics (Asperger/Autism), Todd Valentine (Asperger), Karisma King (Sociopath), Deepak Wayne (Sociopath), Justin Wayne (Autism), SquattingCasanova (Asperger), Tom Torero (Psychopath), Alan Roger Currie (Psychopath), Donovan Sharpe (Psychopath), Bradicus (Asperger), JMULV (Autism), Modern Life Dating (Sociopath), JT Tran (Asperger), Jan Lifestyle (Psychopath)

      There are more that I’m not thinking about right now, but you can tell by the eyes and their facial expressions.

  39. “Tristan has a habit of standing shirtless in car parks holding cheap Chinese-made swords.”

    It is their cars. They have even more….

    “Your entire case is built on a false premise: that the Tates are doing well with women”
    “they never provide evidence with girls”
    “Never real girls showing real attraction”

    This girl left a multi millionaire husband for Tristan. They said it

    I am about to start my own pua company. ( I am terrible with woman)

  40. Hi Krauser.
    I am adressing my message to you.
    In my previous message I told you that I am going to start my own pua company…. Actually I did my research and I am not going to after this market. It is actually not very great. Especially in these days… Covid killed daygame, and previously youtube accounts shutted down etc.
    And the thing is, I think only 1 company making great income: RSD
    other than that… I couldn’t found anybody….. who drive cars like Tate.

    some guys are selling ebooks… that is the worst… the perceived value is the lowest
    second… books… that is the second level… but usually the expected price for books are 10 bucks… maximum 20 if it is an extraordinary book.

    definitely higher margin on video courses.. but usually getting pirated very fast..
    and even higher on subscriptioned software services.(the upfront and the maintenance costs are very high)

    the worst thing about books are those are the shittiest… because a shit ton of work to write them and still a very low cost item… They are strange, arent they? You are never going to buy a lambo unless you are producing a book every month and selling millions of copyes.

    It is definitely not worth to deal with dorks and faggots these type of hustle.. and you can not get employeses… they are going to leave and start their own company when they are getting good.
    this market looks a pain in the ass… dealing with faggots and geeks all day who are think they got it all…

    I am curious how is your business going?
    How many books did you sold? How many video courses?
    How many visitors do you get and what is your conversion rate?

  41. In my opinion Tate and crew are drug dealers using the manosphere to launder the drug money.

    They are a carbon copy of every pommy crew to hit Sydney since the 90’s right down to the kickboxing.
    I showed them to my mates here who all cracked up laughing, we all think they are dealers including my cop mates.

    Everything about them screams dealer ,

    If you’ve done whoring in Europe then you know FKK clubs etc are full of Romanian birds.Its 80Euro for an 8.
    The chicks in Tates IG look burnt out and old compared to FKK clubs.

    In an age of free porn and only fans do you reckon they would be making cash from Cam girls?Do you think the Romanian mafia would let them exist unless they were a cog in some machine running back to the UK?How did Tate make money in the UK? And why were dudes trying to stab him?If Krauser is right about Tate’s fight record how did he make money?
    The way they act ,dress look, all scream drug dealer to me.

    Their weapon handling is a LARP I was on the tools for over a decade, these guys are LARPing .Just the way they force their finger outside the trigger guard looks weird.Its not relaxed and sub conscious. Their Drills are shit, with no flow.Maybe they’d impress some dude with no military or LE experience.

    I don’t consider Tate PUA .I also think guys like CMQ and JMLUV come from or did dealing.

    I suggest you watch a doco called New Italian Mafia the Baby Bosses.Just to see how they act and use Social media.You’ll see Tate like behavior.Cars ,guns ,girls etc

    Or befriend a coke dealer then look at his IG you’ll see CMQ and JMLUV type pics ,

    I’m not a daygamer.I respect the art form.
    If you did night game over years in clubs and bars you get a to know who the dealers are.
    I’d stay as far away from the Tate world as possible.

    • @Give Me A Break, absolutely spot on analysis. The key bit being “Do you think the Romanian mafia would let them exist unless they were a cog in some machine running back to the UK?”
      If it looks like a duck and talks like a duck…
      It will all end in tears right enough.

  42. Slightly off topic but on the subject of imaginary worlds. I came across this today on the an/con website about Dan Blizarian:

    • Is anyone back out regularly Daygaming in London yet? I imagine it is still pretty difficult due to attitudes about masks / distancing. Anyone having much luck?

  43. Nick, readers agree with your take-downs of poseurs like the Tate brothers.

    Roosh became a religious nut. Roissy probably kept his regulatory job, lost his Twitter and blog, and just posts racist rants on Gab. Rollo reposts the same ideas and does podcasts with unvetted self-proclaimed alpha’s. You quit day-gaming. So what is your endgame? Living with parents? Working? Wife and kids? Professional kickboxer or bodybuilder? [I’m looking for a wife. K.]

    • Nick, good luck finding a wife and building a happy marriage. But how are you going about it?

      Your books say that your first marriage happened by luck. IIRC correctly, you initially impressed your wife by getting drunk and inadvertently acting alpha. But you should not rely on luck anymore. You practiced daygame assiduously for a decade. Now, how are you going to find potential wife, screen for quality and compatibility, and court her? While there is obvious overlap, this seems like a serious gap in the PUA literature.

      I expect you to be as organized at wife-hunting as you have been with previous priorities such as daygame and writing. So, why haven’t blogged about fitness instead? Daygaming tourists is not a good way to find a wife. But neither is spending all your time in a hardcore gym. Are you really serious about finding a wife?

  44. The latest Tate video is about ‘buying’ another super car.

    If anyone knows, it would be very interesting to read how can you rent cars like this in the UK (all their cars have its steering wheel on the right side, UK license plates), drive them over the continent and store them in their backyard/drive with them in Romania. What are the costs incurred, liabilities, etc.

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