I was having my morning cuppa a couple of days ago when I get a text from Tom Torero, freshly returned from a Prague bootcamp, saying words to the effect of “check out Sam’s infield we’ve just put up from yesterday”. Check it out I do. Good gosh, the young whippersnapper has really come on leaps and bounds this year. So to do my dear readers a favour and protect them from all the charlatans and pretenders clogging up Youtube with shitty infields, let me introduce you to an (almost) textbook pickup in the London manner.
Play it again, Sam.
0:02 – Tom tells me she gave Sam a brief look as she walked past, pre-approach. Whether Sam was standing like this at the time is unknown to me.
0:17 – Note how empty and slow the street is in contrast to the bustle of Oxford Street on a Saturday afternoon. Sam adjusts his energy accordingly. A playful jog to keep his playful state but no big jump-infront, just the looping ‘Torero Drift’
0:24 – I think her immediate laugh was in recognition that this is a guy she’d just smiled at. Girls giggle and laugh to communicate “I like this, please continue” rather than “this is funny”. It’s probably a Yes Girl, or at least a strong Maybe. He got major points from her for being savvy enough to recognise an approach invitation and ballsy enough to act upon it.
0:28 – She stops dead. A strong hook. Note he reels off the usual words, “really nice” rather than over-egging it even though she’s a proper hottie.
0:31 – She’s into it immediately. Sam’s biggest challenge here is to control his state. He’s got a very very hot girl infront of him and it seems to be hooking. I’ve been there – it’s hard not to immediately run around with your shirt over your head celebrating. Or to let your voice crack and your eyes give you away. He must continue to project “I normally get this reaction from girls of your calibre.” But inside, you know he’s jumping for joy.
0:37 – Boilerplate language when she gives you her country is “I’ve never been to [country] but I imagine [assumption]”. Like I said this is a textbook set. Note the tease on the end and the giggle it gets.
0:44 – “Where are you from?” is confirmation of hook point. He answers briefly and vacuums which draws another question from her and….. light kino. Girls never kino you by accident. It’s a strong hook and she’s beginning to invest.
0:56 – Her hand on the hip is another signal that she’s into this.
1:05 – He turns it back onto her but note how he cheekily references her legs to sexualise slightly. Man-Woman vibe. Smooth. I’d have added “like a flamingo”. Or a giraffe.
1:16 – This is a strange eventuality to analyse. She leads him which is far from ideal, but there was no other option to avoid the car so he reframes it playfully. It could also be read as investment from her.
1:23 – When she talks, let her talk. Whoever is talking is investing. He’s just standing still and looking at her. Probably putting a bit of eye-mesmer onto her, but the video isn’t clear enough to tell. Resist the temptation to do too much.
1:30 – Nice compliance test. You must always get a girl to remove her sunglasses asap or it’ll prevent good eye contact. I’m guessing he tried the eye mesmer and realised the glasses had to go.
1:40 – Unimpressed by her modelling, reframed to make her self-conscious. A textbook covert withholding of validation.
1:46 – There’s enough attraction now so Sam dials it down a bit with normal chat and probes logistics. It’s always good to ask why she’s there in case you get a “I leave tomorrow” and you have to shift gears into SDL / idate mode.
1:53 – “ok” and “I understand”. The two most common things you’ll say as you start to draw her into investing. Note how the relative work rate between them has flipped now.
2:01 – An attempt to prod her into more investment (“goulash”) doesn’t hit so he turns it into a mild challenge. She knows he’s not gonna kiss her ass and agree with everything. This shows personal boundaries.
2:10 – Note her leg movement. Tom likens it to horses pawing the ground while they are excited. She’s flush with adrenalin. You have to be careful here – if you are trying to spike then this is great. However too much of it will detract from your investment and settling her down enough to solidify the set.
2:21 – He turns it back to her again. Keep talking about the girl. Its hoists her by her own solipsism and also maintains a screening frame.
2:30 – Boom! We’ll call that a spike. She immediately tries to break the sexual tension.
2:51 – This is the weakest portion of the set. Bumbling a little, sounding a bit too keen. It’s really hard to keep on point the whole way through with a hot girl, especially when you’re ad-libbing it all. What the set really needed now was some gravitas. Lower the voice, talk about more boring stuff. It’s too fizzy for too long.
3:03 – I think Sam can feel the momentum slipping now. Ideally he’d want to stay another five or ten minutes to bed it down but that little bumbling moment has knocked him off-balance so he’s decided to cut and run before he fucks up an otherwise professional piece of work. I know that feeling of suddenly having the play taken away from you and no longer having access to the free-wheeling analogue word-play. Better to take a number now than fuck it up and get dismissed later.
3:10 – You can feel the drop in conviction on the close. Deep down he’s a bit pissed off he couldn’t hold the frame better. He stumbles on his words a bit and uptalks.
3:17 – Little things like having her point out the paper stuck to his foot could be mismanaged. He handles this one fine. Don’t deny the reality of the situation, don’t try and pretend you are James Bond. He laughes it off, authentically.
3:23 – How little names actually matter.
3:27 – Yet another IOI. He’s still in the game. Just remember street stops are a big ask. With a girl like this you are red-lining your car. Minor slips can send you skidding into the wall.
3:42 – Compare his vocal tone, pacing, and creativity to just thirty seconds ago. He’s regained his mojo now she’s agreed to exchange numbers. It’s subtle but it’s there.
4:33 – Ask yourself this question: “Does it look natural that a guy like him is with a girl like that?” I think it does. He’s conveyed enough of his value in the past four minutes that she no longer seems out of his league.
4:49 – It’s important to act like getting her number is no big deal. Sure, it’s a postive but its not a major score. Hold the frame that a man like you expects to have girls like that. More grist to the mill.
5:00 – With a fully-returned mojo he decides to string it along a bit more, no longer in danger of blowing it.
Overall I’m giving this set 7/10. It was textbook work on a top-tier girl with good attraction, decent investment and competent handling of a few curveballs. However it was still missing elements to lift it into excellence. Specifically, Sam would have benefitted from:
- Greater gravitas. His voice remained quite soft and high and his body language a bit weightless at times. He was more cheeky chappy than grizzly bear. Less movement, less uptalk, lower voice next time please.
- The energy wasn’t sufficiently dialled down to engage in the boring chit-chat that characterises good investment. The beginning was beautifully pitched and fizzy but after about a minute that needs to be dialled down. When you’re in investment you are lulling her to sleep. All those flashy vids you see on Youtube are bullshit. Tight game quickly becomes like two narcoleptics almost nodding off.
- He dropped his bottle half-way through and had to pull out a recovery. Tight game doesn’t have those dramatics. The best sets are like the best defence in football – the opponents never gets into a position dangerous enough that the defender must make a last-ditch tackle. He needs more reference experiences with girls of this calibre to truly feel entitled to them.
- Ultimately she was a strong Maybe Girl. She made it relatively easy for him by complying from the beginning and putting alot of herself into the conversation. The real test is a girl who gives you the Russian Minute.
July 5, 2013 at 1:45 am
What pray tell is the “Russian Minute”?
July 17, 2013 at 5:15 pm
I believe “Russian Minute” refers to the initial frosty persona some Russian girls adopt when being opened.
August 3, 2014 at 8:42 am
Yes, I think I read in Krauser’s book that Russians, even the ones who totally dig you, often give you a stoney expression for several minutes…so you have to keep talking without the feedback.
July 5, 2013 at 2:01 am
His cadence is very similar to tom terero’s, sort of punctual and almost too clear. Maybe that’s because they speak to a lot of euro girls.
July 5, 2013 at 8:41 am
It’s because I’ve been grooming, sorry – coaching – Sam for over a year.
Slow dreamy speech with strong eyes is the secret for daygame attraction; Krauser’s very good at it too. Works on native speakers too – check out the video of me in New York.
And help yourself to English girls; give me a hot, feminine, toned Euro beauty any day.
July 5, 2013 at 5:41 am
I don’t know what it is about slovakian girls, they are beautiful, and for some reason, it’s just easy to be alpha with them. I was a wet-behind-the-ears sixteen year old beta when I got my first SNL on a slovak college girl in the USA, it took me years to figure out what I had done right.
July 5, 2013 at 7:29 am
But if you want to see a natural approach you should check this French guy: http://youtu.be/L6N8iaNhXT8 Nothing fake or “gamey”. Ultra-natural. [He’s pretty good but not ultra-natural. Just very very relaxed. I’ll do an analysis sometime. K.]
January 20, 2019 at 12:18 pm
Hey Nick, I just came across the infield of this French guy and was wondering if you could expand a bit on your answer (if I’m correct you didn’t do an analysis after all).
Because for me this doesn’t look like daygame at all. He basically opens without showing any intent, does a mini stack (the “fasion week” thing cold read, which is neither creative nor flirty), then abandons that topic and goes straight into comfort by talking about his Swedish friend and how he wants to learn Swedish (instead of talking about her) once she tells him that she’s from Sweden. The girl then takes on the conversation by asking him about his name and if he lives there. It sounds like chit-chat between acquaintances.
Maybe this works in this case because she’s a yes girl and he has got attraction based on his looks and his open, but for me this kind of “natural game” wouldn’t work unless she’s into me from the very open (aka a yes girl). And that’s not really game for me.
Am I missing something?
July 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm
So, I want to know what you mean by “ruin her”. You said that in a lay report, but the proof of lay video is private.
July 5, 2013 at 5:59 pm
You snooze you lose, he only kept the video up for 24hrs. It was basically him destroying a hot 22 year old doggy style! 🙂
July 5, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Wanna know she is a hottie? Look at guys at 3:07 passing by. One checks her and few seconds after that informs the rest of the crew!
Lovely and the infield report too!
August 3, 2014 at 8:41 am
Good catch 🙂
July 6, 2013 at 8:18 am
great analysis nick. i did a quick analysis the other day, counting the times he challenged her reality: http://rivsdiary.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/sam-appears-unassuming/
July 7, 2013 at 3:20 am
Nick there are three points that struck me:
1) the more ‘cheeky chappy than grizzly bear’ – I thought Sam’s normal tone of voice was rather high and certainly not ‘lower down’ in tone, can you link to a past video example of either your’s or Tom Torero where you notably demonstrate a lower down voice.
Are we talking about ideally Barry White tonality when you refer to gravitas?
2) is it ‘manly’ to run down the street and then run ahead of the girl to ‘approach’, it seems to me to look rather camp and desperate, straight off you are chasing the girl.
Is it not better to approach from head on i.e. where you are in front of the girl to start with and not behind the girl such that you have to run down the street to get in front of her to approach her?
3) appreciate that it was ad libbed on the fly and after a while of ‘practise’ we all have a repertoire of ‘canned’ material that would be second nature to us through experience but would look ‘normal’ conversation to passers by. Sam’s conversation seemed to me to be stilted at points and peppered with the usual stock questions,there was no real boring chit chat and I did not get sense of any real investment from the Slovakian girl in the video.
As a side note, one of the dorky passer by guys was impressed with the interaction BUT you only have to look at his overall appearance compared to Sam, passer by was real dork and badly dressed one whereas Sam is a good looking guy and above average height [Tom Torero is good looking too and well dressed even if he does look a bit like Gary Lineker’s son!]
How much does looks and height play as part of the overall interaction with girls as I get the impression [no disrespect intended Nick] that both Sam and Tom Torero are taller than yourself and notably better looking facially than yourself?
July 7, 2013 at 9:41 am
1) I assume you’re tongue in cheek referring to Barry White or Nick has more aspie readers of his blog than even he feared.
Sam looks young and lacks gravitas – he doesn’t look like a man of the world or a leader of men. As such working 8+s like this girl will be an uphill struggle for him. He can mitigate this somewhat with subtle micro calibrations such as smiling less, fidgeting less and lowering his vocal tone within reasonable boundaries. If you open trying to channel James Earl Jones, you will burn every set.
2) For my inner game, I’m not a fan of chasing down women on the street. I had this debate with Nick a year ago on facebook. I prefer to catch up with them with long strided walks, open casually from the side and slightly ahead and then plant myself at a 45 degree angle to the full on Yad stop. It looks more chill and dare I say higher value, but I lose major boldness and buying temp spikes induced in the girl by the effontry of a Yad stop. Sam’s lightweightness receives a massive initial points boost via the direct Yad stop. He does well to use it.
Take home: unless you know better through extensive experience, follow daygame best practice and do run in front Yad stops.
3) She certainly invested and IOId him, it was a very decent set overall. Like Nick, I would have dragged it out longer post close and Idated.
Sam and Tom good looking? Hardly. Sam’s average and Tom (bless you lad) is fighting an uphill battle. That’s why I respect Tom’s advice and work greatly.
Nick’s better looking in a Stratham way and with significantly more male gravitas than both of them (no homo).
July 7, 2013 at 2:34 pm
“2) is it ‘manly’ to run down the street and then run ahead of the girl to ‘approach’, it seems to me to look rather camp and desperate, straight off you are chasing the girl.”
you can rationalize away the yad stop all you want — i did — because it is scary and weird. but once you start doing it, you realize they use it because it works.
August 3, 2014 at 8:55 am
Yes, I noticed Krauser referred to the Yad Stop as “magic.”
“Put into crude terms, the “magic trick” of the initial street stop
was from Yad and the first assumption stacking from Andy Yo-
I believe what he means by this is that it’s the sort of weapon he would never part with.
At the same time, it is difficult and takes courage to do. I’ve only done it a few times, and with positive reactions.
The reactions are so positive they left me stunned in silence, unaccustomed to such beauties standing there open-mouthed gazing at me.
July 7, 2013 at 9:45 am
I forgot to thank Nick for the analysis – spot on stuff, worth a bootcamp IMO.
July 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Check out his body language, he’s in what I call the Superman posture, feet apart hands on hips, chest out. It communicates confidence, you’re not afraid to expose your vulnerable organs. That’s why Superman does it to say “take your best shot, I am completely fearless.” I like to stand like this when passing shit tests.
July 9, 2013 at 12:52 pm
When have you seen Obama, Putin or Cameron adopt the Superman posture, NEVER!
Guys with ‘real’ power adopt a relaxed posture shoulders down, hands hanging down at sides of body instead of on the hips.
It’s only the junior wannabes that adopt the ‘Superman’ posture because they are not able to ‘sub communicate’ dominance/authority. [Look at the women they are fucking. Except for Putin – who does often do exaggeratedly alpha body language – would you want their life? Western politicians aren’t alpha, they are gamma back-room dealers. K.]
July 9, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Really Obama or Cameron alpha? Surely you jest. But yes, I see lots of top PUAs use the Superman posture. Tyler from RSD does it all the time for example.
July 9, 2013 at 3:49 pm
But to clarify, I do it to be obviously over the top as a joke that I’m not taking her seriously.
July 15, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Mussolini, Starlin, Hitler, Churchill, alpha?
August 3, 2014 at 8:59 am
The only Cameron I know is Kirk Cameron. I don’t really see him as alpha.
He’s just a follower.
July 18, 2013 at 5:07 am
Krauser, what about American Day game? Do a post on this day game video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q_DMND6Njs&feature=share&list=TLs3u82duaKFk
Break it down for us! [I watched 2 of his vids and my preliminary thoughts are this is Good Looking Guy Game. He’s a big swarthy male 9 and he’s rapid escalating 7s. It’s all about the kino and vibe because his actually conversation is dogshit. If you’re a confident, chill and very good-looking guy not much older than your targets this will work. Wouldn’t work for me. K.]
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December 2, 2022 at 11:51 pm
did this guy kill himself?