Who are the best daygamers in the world? How can you find out?
To aid in the burgeoning growth of the daygame art I am now maintaining a public list of the best players. Over time it will expand and refine itself as I get more submissions and more evidence. Readers are welcome to comment and argue. I will happily rank rivals and unrank friends. All I really care about it that the list is widely considered to be legit. So here is my top ten ranking with explanations. The first thing you’ll notice is there’s only four names because I simply cannot justify filling out slots five to ten. There’s only two guys on here who I’m dead-certain belong (Yad and Suave). The other two probably belong.
I have not ranked myself. There’s no way I could be independent. If you want to place the level of my game, check my in-fields.
Why he’s ranked: Yad has the tightest day game I’ve ever seen. He’s calm, centred, masculine, natural and makes every set seem like it’s a normal conversation without any game and yet ends with the girl giving her number, kissing, or following him for the instant date. There’s no try-hard, no gimmicks and he never ever qualifies. That he can do all this without any surface markers of value (e.g. good looks, money, status) proves it can be learned.
Why he’s not higher: Can’t beat number one
The evidence: I have spent six hours with him on a one-on-one and personally witnessed him do about six sets, all consistently high quality game. He’s got the famous ten-minute kiss close video publically available, and at a semniar I went to he showed another three excellent in-fields (including another ten minute kiss close). Other people who’s opinion I respect rate him number one too.
Connections: We know each other but aren’t friends. We have no business connection.
2. Paul Janka
Why he’s ranked: He’s the only US guy I know who has built a credible daygame system. From watching the Beyond The Digits dvd series he clearly gets it. But can he perform in-field consistently? I don’t know. Everything about his body language, vibe and conversation suggests he’s very good but it’s an inference.
Why he’s not higher: No in-fields. Seems to play a glorified numbers game.
The evidence: I’m going purely from what I read into his dvd materials and the lack of anyone having been able to expose him as a fake.
Connections: None at all
Why he’s ranked: He closes lots of girls on the streets of London and gets them out on dates. He has an extremely laid back manner, great vocal tone, and the best body language I’ve seen in daygame. 100% natural game – learned the hard way
Why he’s not higher: Inconsistent performance, no “magical” sets so far
The evidence: He’s my main wing and I’ve seen him in set well over 100 times and also confirmed subsequent f-closes. There’s also a dozen of his in-field videos floating around, though no recent ones.
Connections: Good friend and business partner. I am not independent on this one.
Why he’s ranked: He’s really put his foot to the floor to systematise and popularise daygame within the London scene. He’s always out gaming or teaching and has a real passion for the art. His tutorial videos show he “get’s it” and the daygame model he recently formalised is the best I’ve seen so far. I’m thinking he’s more like a great teacher than a great daygamer, but willing to be proven wrong if I see it with my own eyes.
Why he’s not higher: No good in-fields in the public domain.
The evidence: I’ve never seen a full in-field video with audio. I don’t know if they exist. Thus he’s on here through second-hand inference because his teaching shows vast knowledge and Yad is happy to be publically associated with him.
Connections: None. We’d recognised each other in the street but that’s all.
There’s a few guys who are “names” in the daygame community but I’m not ranking them yet. Here’s why.
Jeremy Soul: If you are to believe his website fluff then he’s the self-proclaimed “number one day game dating” guru. He’s not. He does have some in-fields on youtube in which he shows some lower-intermediate skills. I’ll grant these are very old and he might have gotten alot better since then. I have some pretty weak early in-fields too. But for Soul to earn a top ten place, he needs tighter publicly available in-fileds. Made-up testamonials don’t earn credit here.
Dharam: In his favour, he has posted alot of in-fields over the past year and he’s a hard worker. He’s not on the list because I’m not impressed by those in-fields.
Assanova: While I absolutely believe this guy has tight day game I’m infering it from his website. He writes like someone who really gets it. However there’s no in-field or even detailed field reports so I’m abstaining for now.
Sasha: He’s the comedian guy. I’ve seen one in-field which is brilliant and awful at the same time, in that he’s funny, ballsy and interesting but he also gets totally blown out and makes a ton of mistakes. He’s probably got some good private in-fields. If I get to see them he might make the list.
I want this list to have integrity – quite a rare thing in the internet marketing world that is the seduction community – so I have some criteria to avoid the main pitfalls of other lists. Namely:
1. In-field evidence: It is frighteningly easy to record in-field audio and video of a daygame pickup. If a guy is telling you his daygame is tight and he can’t provide an in-field then assume he’s a liar until proven otherwise. There are some reasons why guys might be coy so it’s quite reasonable if a guy only puts up one or two vids in the public domain. Maybe they really respect privacy, maybe they want to hold the best stuff back for paying students etc. Eventually, this list will rank only those players who have publicly available videos. It’s the single biggest filter between players and scammers.
2. Business connections: I will declare the business connections I know of. I rate some of the Rock Solid Game guys as top daygamers but I work with them so you ought to know that I’m not fully independent.
3. Bullshit: I don’t give a fuck which company they work for, how many bootcamps they’ve taught, how many made-up testamonials they can spam their website with, what Mystery said about him, which TV shows they’ve been on, how long they’ve been in the community or any other irrelevant unverifiable bullshit. Just give me the in-field or personal experience seeing him in set.
If you want to nominate yourself or someone else for this list, please do so in the comments and make a case. The best way is to post a publically available in-field video to youtube and link it. Next best is some photos that confirm f-closes. If you live in London, show me your game in-set in the real world. If you have privacy concerns email me at my rocksolidgame account – I will not share the evidence unless you specifically authorise it, and I’m happy to rank someone and say “I have seen private versions of the evidence and confirm the guy is legit”.
Also, a guy doesn’t have to be a self-defined PUA. Naturals are fine, as are macks. I’m trying to rank who has the best game where it matters on the streets.
This list is a work in progress – it is not the definitive be-all-end-all. I’ll make it a sticky page and update as the evidence / feedback rolls in