Daygame infield video analysis: An intermediate guy

March 14, 2013
krauserpua

I’m aware that six lay reports in a row could make my blog a little one-dimensional. Let’s have some theory….. The community grinds ever onwards and as new guys come through the ranks they tend to set up little coaching businesses, usually a bit earlier than they should. I’ve been guilty of that myself. I keep my eyes peeled, curious to see what these new guys bring to the table. Here’s an infield I saw for the first time last night. I’ll put in a commentary.

Overall I give it 5/10. Servicable. Approach 100 girls like this and you’ll get ten decent numbers, if you’re as good-looking as this guy. It does enough to convert girls who quite like the look of you, are available, and open to the idea of a street stop. It’s how to get a Yes Girl without fucking up too badly. However if the girl is unconvinced or a bit difficult (a Maybe Girl) then the inauthenticity, lack of higher level social creativity, and general lack of electricity will turn her off.

0:05 – Graphics tip you off that these are intermediate guys who are getting some success but still captured by cheesy community values.

0:11 – Look at her clothes and mood relative to everyone else in the shop. She’s showing lots of skin and immediately sparkles. This girl is likely DTF so you should sexualise early and see how she takes it.

0:12 – It already sounds fake and boilerplate but to give him credit he’s gotten his intent out early. The opener is a chance to inject some humour, creativity and make it specific to the girl. So only rely on canned openers if your mind has gone blank.

0:18 – The interview begins, putting the onus on her to do the work before she’s really figured out who she’s dealing with. I prefer to spend more time assumption-stacking so I can take it out of the boring daily chit-chat and put some electricity into it. Vibing is meant to be fun. The fact she accepts the invasive early questioning is another clue she’s DTF.

0:21 – Item one on the cheesy PUA shopping list of phrases. It’s too much of a leap from the flow of conversation. However despite this being a mediocre set so far she’s still laughing and responding well. Mostly that’s expressing pleasant surprise that a man is chatting her up rather than attraction to this particular man but its still a positive emotion so he can work with it.

0:25 – Cheesy PUA shopping list spike #2

0:31 – Cheesy PUA shopping list spike #3. We’ve now confirmed that this set is a fake showy chit-chat with no authenticity or sexual tension. It’s too light, it’s not grounded. He’s going to have to dial that down or end up with a flaky number (he does, a bit).

0:37 – I like his solid unreactive body language and although he’s dressed a bit cheesy-PUA at least he has a look that will polarise girls. I suspect this set is surviving entirely on the body language and balls of opening direct rather than the lame shit he’s spouting.

0:52 – I dislike how clumsy the “tell me about yourself” is, but I also like that its finally introduced authenticity and not trying to be too smooth

0:56 – Qualification, which she rebuts with a question about him. This set isn’t a car crash because he’s got enough fundamentals and she’s the right girl in the right mood. It’s still going well.

0:59 – Rapport laughter from him. There really needs to be some drive-by sexualisation now. The girl seems generally DTF and she’s testing to see if he’ll be the guy who offers her the dick she hasn’t had for a while.

1:24 – This is a great time to get her investing and opening up but he keeps interrupting. Control the urge to talk. My rule is never interrupt her when she’s speaking unless you are deliberately breaking rapport. Whoever is talking is qualifying.

1:34 – DLV about not commiting to surfing and then awkward laugh. When you talk about yourself you should be giving little glimpses of your life as the Most Interesting Man In The World. Don’t overegg it, just glimpses. Control the urge to politely self-deprecate.

1:43 – DLVing again by positioning her above. Now there’s a chance that he’s got a cheeky grin and eyes that say “I’m only saying this because I’m so confident I can patronise you”, so this could be either way. The video isn’t sharp enough to know which.

1:46 – She’s snatching the frame to direct the conversation

2:03 – After running with it, he snatches the frame back with an investment question. Good move. His body language is very relaxed now as he’s realised she’s there for the taking and her momentum is completely killed.

2:12 – Too agreeable. This is where the London School would be giving non-commital nods and say “ok”

2:23 – “That’s awesome”. He’s found a DTF girl who just likes the look of him and now he’s in danger of wrecking it by seeming too impressed with her and too happy just-to-be-there.

2:42 – She’s biting on the qualification

2:54 – She’s rapport-seeking, which is a great sign. Rather than accept and mirror it I’d suggest vacuuming, being an uncommited listener, and saving the approval for the date. This girl is actively trying to get herself laid.

2:58 – He’s totally unreactive to all the people milling around so the love bubble never pops. That’s good work.

3:09 – He’s got attraction, rapport and investment so this is a good time to go for the number. I think this girl has idate and SDL written all over her so I’d have stretched it out another couple of minutes then bounced. But maybe he’s the one with a time constraint, in which case I’d set up a Same Day De-Lay by meeting her later that afternoon.

3:36 – This is an IOI and also a warning that his material is too fake. Throughout this set we are seeing a mixture of good work and bad missteps. It goes to show that if a girl is right for you, you don’t need to be perfect. Anytime he drops the ball, she picks it up and hands it back to him.

3:40 – Cheesy PUA shopping list spike #3

3:52 – Destroying the earlier authenticity and she responds with nervous laughter. You don’t need that overgaming attraction shit when you’ve already moved into authentic communication. It telegraphs a lack of belief that you already have the girl.

So to recap

Strengths

  • Solid polarising look that distinguishes him from all the schlubs and shows he’s taken care of his image (and is therefore invested in himself).
  • Direct open and doesn’t undermine himself by neutralising that intent and becoming the gay-best-friend later in set.
  • Relaxed non-reactive body language and eye contact. Imposes frame that it’s completely normal to chat to her in a supermarket.
  • Moves the interaction along through vibing, investment and rapport before picking the right time to take the number.

Weaknesses

  • Very fake. Almost everything he says is a mini-routine from an internet forum. There’s no flow.
  • Much too agreeable. Where’s the sexual tension?
  • It’s a missed opportunity. This girl was DTF and could’ve been bounced. By failing to see this there’s a good chance she’s disappointed in him and will flake in favour of a man who will give her the dick.
  • Mentally subtract his look and body language and instead focus on what he said. Was there a single ounce of creativity or interesting conversation there? No. He hasn’t displayed high level social skills or given a window into his world either overtly nor covertly.

Videos like this are good for the intermediate guys to compare themselves against. You can see which bits are getting you your results but also see what needs to be eliminated or built upon to get to the next level. This guy is doing quite well and seems to have the right attitude. We’ll likely hear more from him in a year or so.

29 Comments

  1. Lol Krauser, would you have injected it with a little “you look like a hamster/chipmunk/squirrel” creativity?

  2. Great analysis. This is how I did it in the beginning. Now I’m slowing down, I’m not qualifying myself. I’m listening for shit tests and if I can’t think of some witty rejoinder, I pause, then respond with a kind of bemused smile and wry chuckle, then change the subject.

  3. Great analysis – I wouldn’t have immediately picked out that she is DTF other than the interaction is going well despite his missteps and she is displaying a lot of skin relative to other females in the supermarket (I vaguely remember a notion that fertile women subconciously do this during the most fertile part of their cycle when their hindbrain is wanting alpha fux).

    Mr USA does more right than wrong and its only his miscalibrated intermittent injection of boilerplate alpha material into the set that will make some of the regulars here cringe.

    To give the old boy some credit, she’s a fine looking filly and he executes a credible set with a decent chance of a D1 or D2 bang. Shame he is dressed like an American douche.

  4. He’s dressed like Ed Gein…

  5. I agree, not much tension. Solid, but fairly vanilla. Might not be as effective on a hotter gal.

  6. You’re right on with the analysis. Too agreeable. He’s practically cutting her off so he can agree with what she’s saying.

    When a girl finally tells you what she does for a living, that is the opportunity to set yourself apart from every chode out there who tries to kiss her ass with “Oh yeah? That’s really cool.” Hold back on the validation and make her give a little more. She’s already decided to invest and won’t stop right away. By throwing out bullshit validation like that, you’re pretty much telling her she’s qualified and she doesn’t need to share anymore.

    His body language is decent. His voice tone and delivery are decent. This is about a 20% chance that this won’t flake. If it doesn’t flake, a lot of that will be based on his looks and initial confidence, not what he did after the opener.

  7. Ah, Waitrose… because posh girls love the D.

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  9. Nice comments Krauser. But we also prefer to seee your new infield videos from begining to end. so we can manage to be better too and do not make mistakes like that guy. When I check your older posts, I have seen some videos but they are too old and I believe that u have improved a lot since than. So hope to see the day game from a pro here.
    Thanks.

  10. Artisan’s got good game… I think you went a lil too overboard on the dissecting of the video. You gotta remember, it’s day game you can’t be as wild at you would be in a club.

    Sick blog btw. [Thanks. I focused on the things he could do better, but that was still a good set. I can see the guy is getting laid. K.]

  11. Gotta agree about the whole fakeness. Right from the off with the “adorable” comment, it sounded wrong. It’s a good example too about keeping the vibe up, I was getting bored with how passive he was getting throughout so imagine what she was feeling.

  12. i agree bring back the infield vids. learn alot from that…moreso than reading. just soaking up a good set on a video and reading the breakdown is very helpful. [I’m getting tired of putting up infields, plus I just had another case of a girl finding herself on my blog. For the time being at least, I’m not planning on doing any more infield videos. K.]

  13. Let’s not forget that this is an American guy, approaching an English girl, in an English supermarket.

    Its not surprising that, “where are you from” is the first personal question she asks him.

    She says that she has visited the U.S. in the past and seems to have a favourable impression of the Country.

    For me, the over-riding reason she makes so many allowances for his clumsiness, is that he has an American accent.

    I suspect that an English guy, making the same mistakes, would have struggled to number close here.

    Whenever I visit the States, I am always pleasantly surprised how much value my English accent gives me, particularly when day gaming.

  14. understood i thought that might the case

  15. Krauser, where you get all your motivation for gaming? Do you have a high sexual drive or what are the reasons?

    Can you help

  16. nick, excellent analysis. before i read your review, i saw the video myself and took my own notes to see what i could catch, and yeah, i noticed the overgaming at the end and wrote “didn’t snowflake her”, but i like much better how you described it:

    “Destroying the earlier authenticity and she responds with nervous laughter. You don’t need that overgaming attraction shit when you’ve already moved into authentic communication. It telegraphs a lack of belief that you already have the girl.”

    destroying the earlier authenticity — that’s the perfect way of saying it. start strong, impress her with alpha, but then move into an authentic vibe, which is crucial for comfort.

    this is brilliant. incredibly practical and useful. thanks man.

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  18. Kraus read my mind or perhaps read my article on being one-dimensional.

    It doesn’t even have to be lay reports, anything of the same matter posted too many times in succession is a killer (as far as blogging goes).

    Guys should learn variety and instead of posting about theories all day, they can add in some videos (perhaps not of them if they don’t have).

    A string of my last posts have been in-field pickups. It’s getting pretty burned out so I varied the pace with variety.

  19. Good point on holding back the validation.

    I’ve had a guy told me on a PUA forum a while ago that in such cases, you should allow the girl to go full speed ahead on what she does, etc. I find that to be anti-progress.

    I don’t believe in allowing the girl to set the frame and convo without me interjecting.

  20. One of the biggest problems budding (and even a few veteran) PUAs have is that they seem fake. The way they interact doesn’t feel genuine. I know straight up if anyone acted like that to be I’d know they were full of shit. I think the next shift were going to see in the gaming community is going to be about addressing this exact problem.

    I get it. Men sometimes need formulas to understand how to progress through the interaction but we should really try to forego all these canned and rehearsed lines and mannerisms. Every single time I rehearsed saying or doing something for a woman and then have done it has seemed off and women know it. They can feel it; they are intuition machines for Christ’s sake!

    Every single successful and positive interaction that I’ve had with a woman was unrehearsed. Don’t get me wrong I gamed the fuck out of them. Yes Sir! But I try to do it in the moment.

    Get caught up in the moment. Try to let a girl charm you, granted it’s rare these days but when it happens it progresses so naturally and feels like magic.

  21. Hi Krauser,
    I am one of your followers and read already all of your blog. first of all, good job.
    I need a little bit help from an expert like you cause I am havin’ problem with dates. Since a couple of months each date is good but at the end fuckin’ ‘Let’s be friends’ line comin’. I would like to know really what r u sayin’ to girls or how make things more sexual durin’ date. I hope that u would write an answer cause it started to get me really sick to lost all these hot woman.
    Thanks for reading.
    Cheers.

  22. Here’s some interesting body language: at 2:55, the guy reactively looks, for a split of a second, at another guy that’s passing by. The girl reacts instantly: she gives a scared look at the other guy, steps back a few centimeters and momentarily forgets what she’s talking about.

    The girl is connected on a subconscious level to the guy’s body language. It’s almost as she was saying “if you act strong and lead me where you want I’ll be glad to follow you and satisfy you, but if you get scared by a guy passing by I’m in danger and got to escape” with her body.

  23. “if you act strong and lead me where you want I’ll be glad to follow you and satisfy you, but if you get scared by a guy passing by I’m in danger and got to escape” — brilliant.

  24. For some reason I cannot see the damn link unless krauser didn’t include it. Anyway very good job of being diverse in game blogging.

  25. I didn’t quite understand about his supposed good looks. He looks a weed I’d pluck out of the garden.

    “Solid polarising look that distinguishes him from all the schlubs and shows he’s taken care of his image (and is therefore invested in himself).”

    I take “polarizing” to mean that he dresses differently. OK, he dresses like a tramp, unlike anyone else in the vicinity. Now, if that really works then I’d do it, since results are what counts and not my personal aesthetic.

    But that girl’s twittering voice really grated on me and I’d have to walk away.

  26. Seriously, though, about her voice: it conveyed an extrovert energy that I found physically painful. I’m a cool (as in temperature) low-energy type as Krauser claims to be, maybe even more so.

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