Thug-fucking 101 – A display of hard dominance

August 15, 2012
krauserpua

Much is made of “alpha” within the manosphere. With it being a desired label for many men, both for the ego and it’s promises of access to unlimited hot girls, there are competing and often self-serving definitions. I’m not immune to this but I do find alot of misleading rubbish it written on the term. Here’s some of it:

    • Alpha female. There is no such thing because women do not have a dominance hierarchy. There is a mother hen who, in the absence of a willing male, will take upon herself the male leadership role. There are strong independent women of the feminist wet dream but these females are considerably less attractive than their peers and utterly unable to command attractive male followers. There’s also incredibly hot tier-1 women but that’s all they are – hot women – they are not leaders who use that leadership to raise their sexual market value. Alpha only applies to males.
    • Hero alpha. The squad leader who charges the machine gun nest and wins a Victoria Cross is not necessarily alpha. He is a high-level beta who channels Warrior energy. For all his stand-out bravery (which I don’t denigrate, it’s very admirable) he is following someone else’s cause. That’s beta.
    • Ghetto alpha. The Rawness did a great post on the myth of the ghetto alpha (think of lesser 50 Cents or Kanye West type characters). He describes it better than me but the summary is that they are mommies boys, products of fatherless homes, who grow into a testosterone-fuelled cariacture of masculinity. That’s why accomplished men instinctively look down on them and the girls they pull are trash.

Some non-alphas, yesterday

In the UK we have our own version of the ghetto alpha who is spawned by the suffocating welfare state, ruined school system, and chav-farming of the socialist client state. They are found deep within social housing estates, a product of three generations of unemployment. Most such men become withdrawn, nervous husks but some are able to work their ecosystem well to impregnate many low class women and foist child-rearing costs onto the honest taxpayer. Those of you with a passion for wading through the scum of society needs only search for Jeremy Kyle on youtube. He’s a freak-wrangler of the highest order. Here’s a clip where one such “alpha” makes an appearance. It’s an educational video. Watch for all his flashes of hard dominance as the video progresses. I in no way suggest readers emulate this dickhead but there’s a reason men like this score pussy. My commentary is below.

0:05 – The whole issue is he seems to be cheating on his girl and fathering children. Pre-selection, abundance, untameable.

0:10 – unhurried arrogant shuffle into the studio and unfazed by crowd. He’s already aggressively pushing his frame out.

0:15 – WhiteKnight host immediately tries a frame grab and amog. Instinctive push-back and state control, strong eye contact. He’s not letting WK pull him into the accusational moralistic frame.

0:24 – This is very aggressive amogging from the WK on his own turf, with a pre-heated waiting-to-be-outraged lynch mob, and burly security. GA lets it roll off and doesn’t break. His frame is holding.

0:27 – Laconic sprawling body language and counter-challenge. He knows the host is trying to belittle him so he confronts it. He’s not conforming to the Polite Guest frame.

0:33 – He’s right. The host is giving him a dirty look. Can’t let it go unchallenged.

0:36 – That’s a pretty girl. Ostensibly way out of his class, and she’s tingling at this display of hard dominance.

0:46 – At this point the chav has done nothing wrong and he hasn’t lost his rag.

1:15 – A take-away. He’s utterly unwilling to let his frame be broken. This is going to mess up the host’s show. While the whole of the situation is designed to render him powerless, he knows the one this he has is the ability to withhold drama from a drama-hungry audience.

1:40 – Finally, he concedes some frame. Remember I’m not holding him up as a hero, merely an interesting example of a ghetto alpha.

1:50 – As an aside, who do you think is banging hotter and more plentiful young women, the chav or the white knight? Actually it’s a tough call. Jeremy Kyle has done better than the average man with the masculinised old woman he wifed up.

2:54 – Deny deny deny. No supplication.

4:28 – He’d rather spend money on aftershave than buy stuff for the baby. Deplorable….. self absorption.

4:50 – Notice he still hasn’t shifted out of his laconic, even-voiced, barely-moving state while everyone around him gets agitated. Also notice how cowed the girl is, unwilling to join the witchunt against her man.

6:06 – “Why are you going around having unprotected sex with women when you can’t even run you own life effectively”. Of course the women have no responsibility for getting themselves pregnant. The host doesn’t seem to realise he’s DHVing his guest.

7:44 – Predictable lack of outrage from the girl. She knows and her hindbrain doesn’t care. She’s using this show to try to keep him, not push him away.

9:28 – He’s the proud father-to-be of two. Job done, go home. Frame remains intact.

22 Comments

  1. Excellent post. Spot on analysis of the woman’s behavior. She actually looked afraid of him at one point, covering her face with the paper in anticipation of his anger for being subjected to the host’s attack. But I may be reading too much into it. If this is an example of a ghetto alpha, it does a great job showing their inherent fear. The frame they hold is a defense mechanism in stark contrast to the strength you see in another alpha type. The laconic pace he had seemed to me more of a walk of shame. And his eyes seemed to dart around and constantly keep watch of his peripherals, maybe wary of surprise attacks. He even hid in his shirt when the father came out.
    The steady frame seemed more like a kid who got in trouble unwilling to fess up.

  2. Uh huh. How alpha is it to avoid the “other alphas” in the UK? You know – the blacks and muslims there.

    This PC crap won’t fly. Now you’ve got thousands of negro alpha thugs there in London pumping out babies. There are millions of Pakis and muslims scamming the system and making a joke our of your entire nation.

    You, Krauser, serve someone else’s cause by not pointing this out. You took the safe way out – insult the white chav. It’d be like an American insulting a stereotypical redneck.

    There’s more to being alpha that getting women. When’s the last time you really took things to the edge? Enoch Powell knew something about that. [Clearly you've never read my twitter. Tard. K.]

  3. These thug types come from fathers who think of them as a pain to deal with. I think that stunts them into adult boyhood. The dad here is a real tool, still rocking age 21 clothing, tattoos, earrings, and shit body language.

    The alpha dad thinks of his sons as little minions to school in the dark arts. Treating a son like a wing is probably the exact opposite of thuggery, since he will grow up feeling more welcome and accepted and part of the clan.

  4. Haha man is this a joke? sure his verbal communication portrays dominance but any nigga can sees he’s plain pussy from his non-verbal.

  5. Females most definitely do have status pyramids/pecking orders of their own [which are utterly unable to cause attraction in men. K.]

    • I loved the rest of this post, it’s really something to watch someone so clearly deplorable clearly score way out of his league, with a woman that “you wouldn’t think” he could get, using what women often really find themselves attracted to rather than what they’re “supposed” to be attracted to.

      But like Don Julian said in response to “Alpha female. There is no such thing because women do not have a dominance hierarchy.”

      “Females most definitely do have status pyramids/pecking orders of their own”.

      The female tendency towards backstabbing, slut shaming, the constant stream of negative things almost any women has to say about almost any other woman at the ready, how women will dress up sexy for her a dinner party with her family or (genuinely) just her female friends – these are all weapons in the constant and never ending social struggle for dominance that she’s in with other women.

      I’ve watched, and I…cannot express how strongly it seems to be the opposite. Women are engaged in a constant, and never ending struggle for social dominance. Men sort of get into their social position then are very comfortable just staying there.

  6. OMG. Why does the UK have white people like this but not Spain, Denmark, etc.? Crazy!
    Yeah I know we do in the US too but they are mostly of British stock. . . .

  7. Being an East End boy, i know exactly why these guys become this way. Usually starts off in school. They develop such a bad reputation by their peers that no matter what they do, they’re always going to be seen like a scumbag regardless. So what has he to lose? If i was in those shoes, i would be the same as well. Non reactive, defiant and upfront.

    This is a stark contrast to how i was back then, by doing as i was told, being a model pupil and getting good grades. All for ‘pleasing’ the teachers and family members.Typical supplicating behavior and a bad model for attracting and picking up women.

    That is exactly why cold approaching and doing day game helps because it will get you rejected consistently and make you experience what its like to get grilled consistently by people, until you eventually not give a damn and develop a nonchalant attitude.

    The difference is, it’s all for a good purpose rather than developing it by developing a bad reputation. Whether or not cold approaching girls on the street develops a bad reputation is debateable, but ultimately. All of us have to experience failure and get torn consistently, in order to become the strong men we were born to become. [Good comment. K.]

  8. Huh? He looks like a frightened dog in a corner. His body language is that of a kid in the principals office. No eye contact, head down, mumbles, swears as a distraction, not as an attack or from outrage. The show is a trap. If he had any balls, he would not have been there at all. He took a lie detector and dna test. why? Plenty of women out there. Walk away. No one goes on these shows to get their problems fixed. [Many of you are missing the point staring you in the face simply because you find him so objectionable. He's just knocked up two women, one of whom is quite pretty and far less trashy than you'd expect from this social class, and she still wants to keep him despite him being of such low educational and socio-economic status. That's just the two we know about at this point in time. He's clearly doing something that is attractive that transcends his otherwise total loserness. This video shows what that is. K.]

    • Emotions >>> logic everytime. A girl will get knocked up by a struggling artist rather than with a millionaire businessman. Alpha fucks, beta bucks.

  9. The fact is JVH, he’s attractive. He’s attractive because he can’t be molded or changed. Something which women naturally find attractive because their most basic instinct is to domesticate their environment in order to build a stable nest.

    What all of these women latch onto is the false hope that they will be able to change this type of guy into one that’s able to provide and foster a family.

    What use is a guy who’s ‘perfect’ or has his shit together?

    Where’s the challenge in that?

    This is something i wrestled with for ages, thinking that in order to be attractive, i will have to have all the materialistic things in place (nice car, good job, house etc) in order to be a part of society and attract the types of girls who i initially thought were unattainable. Perhaps for security, yes.

    But ultimately, a man that can look after himself, who can cook, clean, can make money and can do pretty much everything a woman can do plus more is a the type of man that ends up being sexless, alone and the type of guy that usually ends up creating a profile on sugardaddy.com and trawling the web for high class prostitutes.

    That is why i’m against a man doing a woman’s job, which isn’t sexist. It’s the facts. Women need to do their part of the work which will make her consistently attracted to her man and her relationship.

    Having it all isn’t ideal, which society keeps ramming down our throats. There’s simply nothing a woman can work with… She wants a ‘work in progress’ or a man she can fix.

    The trick is to give her that hope but to always maintain your identity by not changing.
    It’s the reason guys like the one presented in the video is successful.

    • This comment is wrong on so many levels. I’m shocked no one called him on it yet. [The floor is yours. Offer a critique or counter-argument. K.]

    • “The fact is JVH, he’s attractive. He’s attractive because he can’t be molded or changed.”

      —> Agreed. His ATTITUDE is attractive. Molded or changed bit doesn’t sit right, counterpoint is below.

      “Something which women naturally find attractive because their most basic instinct is to domesticate their environment in order to build a stable nest.”

      —> The basic instict is Hypergamy. It trumps ‘domestication’ every time.

      “What all of these women latch onto is the false hope that they will be able to change this type of guy into one that’s able to provide and foster a family.”

      —> If they want to change a guy like that it’s for a different reason. Has to be something else at work if their goal is to remove what made them attracted in the first place…

      “What use is a guy who’s ‘perfect’ or has his shit together?
      Where’s the challenge in that?
      This is something i wrestled with for ages, thinking that in order to be attractive, i will have to have all the materialistic things in place (nice car, good job, house etc) in order to be a part of society and attract the types of girls who i initially thought were unattainable. Perhaps for security, yes.

      But ultimately, a man that can look after himself, who can cook, clean, can make money and can do pretty much everything a woman can do plus more is a the type of man that ends up being sexless, alone and the type of guy that usually ends up creating a profile on sugardaddy.com and trawling the web for high class prostitutes.”

      —> This bit I have contention with. It’s dripping with “waaaa”. And of course projection. Just because you may have become sexless doesn’t mean the whole idea of being independent and productive to society is flawed. Game is your salvation provided you’re not too entrenched.

      —> To the point of the materialistic things. Many rich high SMV women (the unattainable ones) will only get with a guy if he’s got money. I’ve run into that first hand on MANY occasions. If you have the attitude and money, your options really open up. Almost any poor high SMV woman will choose you if you have the attitude and money. It’s not even GAME at that point. The problem lies when you expect the money to do the work for you. It’s simply a tool. You still have to know how to wield it.

      “That is why i’m against a man doing a woman’s job, which isn’t sexist. It’s the facts. ”

      —> It actually IS sexist. But there’s nothing wrong with that. Feminists have convinced most of us that pointing out differences between the sexes is wrong. It is not. If you’re afraid to say something sexist it points to a bigger problem in your paradigm.

      “Women need to do their part of the work which will make her consistently attracted to her man and her relationship.”

      —> Wholeheartedly agree. But now we have to contend with entitlement complexes and fat apologists. It has to start with your attitude and the woman you’re with knowing where you stand in your gender role. A little dread goes a long way.

      “Having it all isn’t ideal, which society keeps ramming down our throats. There’s simply nothing a woman can work with… She wants a ‘work in progress’ or a man she can fix.”

      —> If that were true every Warcraft geek would be dating supermodels. Women want a man who is ‘better’ than them. See any post on hypergamy by roissy I mean heartiste. The “fixing” of a man is after she’s snagged an alpha and she wants to prevent him from banging other women. That, my friend, is what domestication is. His balls on lockdown so he’s not out knocking up other women and diluting her potential resources. She wants all his time and money.

      “The trick is to give her that hope but to always maintain your identity by not changing.
      It’s the reason guys like the one presented in the video is successful.”

      —> The reason that guy is successful is because he’s ‘better’ than her. Whether imagined or real, he believes it and she knows it. Hypergamy.

  10. This is a good example that shows how women make their decisions based on emotions and not cold rational logic (unlike men… usually). Care to trust them to run countries and corporations?

    Here’s another clone of these…

    Same behavior and body language.

    • Not the same body language. There was no shame. Big difference to me at least. To society he’s a POS, but he’s got the right swagger. I’d rather have a beer with him than the other chav (is that the right word? I’m American). Krauser’s example showed us that having detestable character can work in the sexual market and this adds credence to that, just better body language.

  11. What is amazing to me after swallowing red pill, depsite these guys obvious deficiencies I actually am rooting for them against JK who is trying to AMOG them.

  12. Yeah me too especially watching the second one, what a disgusting piece of shit the host is, I’m reminded of a quote by Ernt Junger (who was neither) “better to be a delinquent than a bourgeois”

  13. Alpha male Cage match: Andy the Chav Vs Krauser the PUA
    How would the fight go down?

  14. It’s sad that the host almost disgusts more than that useless piece of human-something who’s living off of community money. Still both videos (the one in the comments included) are great displays of alpha, even if most wouldn’t want to admit they are (or display) alpha!

  15. These kind of chavs are the product of abusive childhoods and probably have some sort of personality disorder. I know a lot of these types due to where I grew up. These guys never date high value women. Even if they’re pretty, the girls that generally settle for abusive and emotionally unstable men such as these have self esteem issues themselves.

    A quality gamer with genuine high value and congruence isn’t even running in the same race as these ‘tards. If you find yourself competing with men such as these then you have bigger problems relating to self awareness and your own image/value.

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